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BAYRAKTAR TB3 Test Flight Program
Comprehensive Test Results and Performance Data (2023–2025)

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Q&A with Haluk Bayraktar - Atlantic Council

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It seems to me like they are really shooting for the stars, hoping to lead with a truly autonomous unmanned fighter in the long-term.

In the near-future though, is it really viable to have an independent unmanned fighter connected to a command center, playing a command and control function? I suppose if they can at least develop the planes ability to autonomously retreat and recover if its connection is jammed, that could work?
 

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Q&A with Haluk Bayraktar - Atlantic Council

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It seems to me like they are really shooting for the stars, hoping to lead with a truly autonomous unmanned fighter in the long-term.

In the near-future though, is it really viable to have an independent unmanned fighter connected to a command center, playing a command and control function? I suppose if they can at least develop the planes ability to autonomously retreat and recover if its connection is jammed, that could work?

It should be able to do this at least, or else it will be only a fast and expensiv drone.

This PDF, which I printed out from a manual for Falcon BMS (F-16 Simulation), sums up my expectations for what an unmanned fighter jet and loyal wingman should be able to do, either through its AI or by commands from a human operator (MUM-T).
FYI, "spiked" means you are being tracked (being locked on) by a radar.

What are your expectations?
 

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I'm pretty sure Baykar's drones have had this capability, albeit to a limited extent, for a while now since I recall an interview with a Ukrainian drone pilot a couple of years ago where he mentioned losing connection with TB-2s in the field and having them fly back to base later on their own, damaged but still functional. So no surprise that Baykar is doubling down on this approach.
 

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Found this on the internet, ther is 2 KE manufactured. I do not now if it is a old picture.

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Do they use titanium structure? If so, who produces or provides these titaniums?
Without using titanium frame, how can it do aggressive manoeuvres in the air?
 

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Do they use titanium structure? If so, who produces or provides these titaniums?
Without using titanium frame, how can it do aggressive manoeuvres in the air?
A logical claim could be; composites over an Aluminium frame including high performance alloys and Titanium alloys
 

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"In a first of its kind demonstration, Boeing [NYSE: BA] and the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) have successfully conducted a mission against an airborne target using two in-flight MQ-28 Ghost Bat aircraft and a third digital aircraft, all controlled from an airborne E-7A Wedgetail."

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This is the reason why i still think that it will be enough to have KIZILELMA and ANKA-3 on MUGEM, if we can manage to put an AWACS drone on MUGEM too. Although MUGEM will be accompanied by TF2000, its radar would be maybe not enough.
All turkish BVR missiles will have Datalink capability, so all you have to do is to bring your UCAVs in position to shoot and then turn them back to your AD coverage by TF2000. The fired missiles will be guided by Datalink after all.

Like i said before, we should develop a carrier-capable AWACS drone.
 

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"In a first of its kind demonstration, Boeing [NYSE: BA] and the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) have successfully conducted a mission against an airborne target using two in-flight MQ-28 Ghost Bat aircraft and a third digital aircraft, all controlled from an airborne E-7A Wedgetail."

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Like i said before, we should develop a carrier-capable AWACS drone.

What they did was establishing an airborne command center that controls the UAV. IMO we should have been able to do the same, but we have problems acquiring suitable platforms. Considering how our government and TSK has failed to procure, and are always halting and delaying the processes.
 

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What they did was establishing an airborne command center that controls the UAV. IMO we should have been able to do the same, but we have problems acquiring suitable platforms. Considering how our government and TSK has failed to procure, and are always halting and delaying the processes.

Yes but those drones probably used the AWACS's radar. Putting AESA radar in our UCAVs won't be enough.
We can control them with Hürjet (MUM-T).

And what platform would you want to acquire? We already have the same AWACS. No?
 
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