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[UkroTurk]

AFAIK even most of frigate warships are not combat operational at 5 seastate. Just survive mode.
@Anmdt

Aircraft Carrier Flight Operations – Up to What Sea State?

Modern nuclear-powered aircraft carriers (e.g., Nimitz-class, Ford-class – USA):

Typically capable of conducting flight operations up to Sea State 5 (about 4 meters wave height).

At Sea State 6 or higher, flight operations are usually suspended or highly restricted, due to:

Increased ship movement (roll and pitch), making takeoff and landing dangerous.

Difficulty in maintaining optimal wind alignment for launch and recovery.



Lighter or STOBAR-type carriers (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery – e.g., Russia’s Admiral Kuznetsov):

Usually effective up to Sea State 4.

At higher sea states, deck motion becomes too severe for safe aircraft operations.




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In higher sea states, it becomes difficult to maintain a steady position.

The flight deck can pitch and roll dangerously, making both launch and recovery operations risky.
Considering flight deck structure of TCG Anadolu, 5SS is challenge.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Sea State conditions are assessed by an experienced and trained marine observer via actually measuring and by using instruments like electronic weather buoys to measure wave height and wave radar or remote sensing satellites that can assess wave height as well as degree of spray which constitutes part of the measurement process. (Not by catching a glimpse of a bit of water in a video)

Carrier operational limit is Sea State 5. But this is for a large and heavier carrier. Larger, heavier carriers generally experience less motion in rough seas, allowing for more consistent flight operations and reduced operational limitations. Smaller ships, on the other hand, are more susceptible to the effects of sea state, leading to more frequent disruptions in their ability to launch and recover aircraft

Sea state is characterised by wave height, wave period, and few other factors like wind speed which impacts a ship's motion in all three dimensions. Sea State is measured by taking all these factors in to consideration.

A 27000 ton LHD and a 100000ton super carrier will have very different sea state tolerances if they are both used for same type of carrier operations. (Also it has to be remembered that one is essentially designed to be an Amphibious Assault Vessel, where as the Carrier’s design is such that it is engineered for specifically to withstand rough seas. It has big electronically controlled gyroscopes and ballast tanks that are no match for those used in smaller ships. )

 

[Yasar_TR]

Sea states have been traditionally judged by visual clues. That's why in the video often parts showing a flag flying and an empty stretch of water showing waves and sometimes both included as much as possible while no instrument is shown surprisingly. Metering by instruments only adds precision to the judgement. So you can very well judge sea state by visual clues in a video. Please stop disrespecting members and start showing your way of judging what sea state the ship is operating in; oh yes there is non. A yes sea states is a range of values not a single value metered by an instrument.

First of all you can not tell me that I am disrespecting any member. I am not.
I don’t need to agree with what you write. Especially when it is illogical and petty.

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Sea state conditions for a ship can be determined through a combination of visual observations by experienced personnel, instrumental measurements using weather buoys and wave radar, and remote sensing satellites.
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Have you done any of that to come to a conclusion of sea state 4?

Please read below article. Especially this paragraph:

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How to determine the sea state?​

The simplest way is through visual observation by experienced seafarers.

In addition, specialized observation ships carry out sea state observations, including water temperature, salinity, chemical composition, marine pollutants, marine life, ocean currents, and other parameters from the surface to the deep layers.

Nowadays, instruments such as meteorological buoys, wave radars, or remote sensing satellites can be used to assess sea state. For example, modern autonomous underwater vehicles (AUVs) can make accurate measurements and sea state forecasts in complex ocean environments.

It is worth mentioning that sea state can be quickly judged based on the actual ocean conditions, but we cannot quickly determine the wind and wave conditions on the sea surface according to the Beaufort wind scale. Wind scale cannot fully represent the sea state, and in windy conditions, this state may take several hours to develop.

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Understanding Sea State: A Comprehensive Guide - OUCO

In this comprehensive guide, we will introduce you to the basics of sea states, including how they are measured and what factors can affect them.

ouco-industry.com

 

[Sanchez]

Looks like the Anka-3 PT-2 crash landed during Anatolian Eagle 25. Looks mostly intact.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937915129221226663

 

[Rooxbar]

Looks like the Anka-3 PT-2 crash landed during Anatolian Eagle 25. Looks mostly intact.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937915129221226663

Shit, probably sets back testing phase somewhat. It's oft repeated that flying these flying wing configurations is hard, so probably bound to happen for a firm doing it for the first time. Hopefully it's not damaged too much (doesn't look like it).

 

[Sanchez]

Shit, probably sets back testing phase somewhat. It's oft repeated that flying these flying wing configurations is hard, so probably bound to happen for a firm doing it for the first time. Hopefully it's not damaged too much (doesn't look like it).

I don't like speculation, we have no idea what happened. Looks like a controlled landing without power, maybe engine gave out. We'll have some idea of what to expect by watching future flight testing. Official explanations will be useless as usual.

 

[No Name]

Looks like the Anka-3 PT-2 crash landed during Anatolian Eagle 25. Looks mostly intact.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937915129221226663

Is the wing on the right side broken?

Does this mean there will be a delay in the project?

Also, that is the second one, right?

 

[Strong AI]

Looks like the Anka-3 PT-2 crash landed during Anatolian Eagle 25. Looks mostly intact.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937915129221226663

Shh, it needs some rest. (video)

Instagram

www.instagram.com

 

[mTT]

TAI's press release:
During a test flight conducted today as part of the Anatolian Eagle 2025 International Exercise, ANKA III performed a controlled emergency landing at 19:16.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1937924857942953993

 

[Sanchez]

Shh, it needs some rest.

Instagram

www.instagram.com

Looks almost AI, uncanny. Must be quite the spectacle for watchers.

I think it's PT-2 but that gray tone could also be from the dust on it and maybe it's PT-1?

Regardless, nothing to cry about, it's a prototype for a reason. Lots of lessons to be learned from the mishap for the future.

 

[Strong AI]

Looks almost AI, uncanny. Must be quite the spectacle for watchers.

I think it's PT-2 but that gray tone could also be from the dust on it and maybe it's PT-1?

Regardless, nothing to cry about, it's a prototype for a reason. Lots of lessons to be learned from the mishap for the future.

The thing is, it could have just crashed. But they/it managed to do an emergency landing without bursting into flames. That's a plus.

 

[mTT]

 

[Strong AI]

 

[No Name]

The thing is, it could have just crashed. But they/it managed to do an emergency landing without bursting into flames. That's a plus.

I cannot tell if it is its weapons bay that is open or the landing gear. Can someone tell the difference?

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

I'd keep an eye on the people that immediately show those pictures to the open. I know it's the Anatolian Eagle but still. Maybe some skulls need to be cracked to be fair.

 

[Strong AI]

I'd keep an eye on the people that immediately show those pictures to the open. I know it's the Anatolian Eagle but still. Maybe some skulls need to be cracked to be fair.

It landed next to a public road, what do you mean? (look at the picture on the right, it is visible between the last trees there)

 

[uçuyorum]

Could have been much worse. Tusaş had a good run of very few crashes even with prototypes. Remember YF22 crashes or B2 crash due to humidity in altitude sensor or whatever

 

[Anmdt]

I see sea state 3 at least at later sorties; breaking waves with white foam is no less then state 3. A state 5 sorti should be achievable without much risk. I wonder how much weather the ship will risk sailing but the TB3 can not fly. Like if the ship can sail at sea state 6 but TB3 can fly at SS 4 max then it is 2 SS difference. But if TB3 can fly at SS 5 then it is just one SS difference. I wonder if they will test the plane to see how much weather it can take at the cost of causing some accidents. They do it in aviation and fly planes until they break. I think I have sailed at SS 6 and maybe even touched SS 7 in my cargo ship days.

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This is significant wave height we are speaking, most military ships have survivability limit at sea state 7. Beyond sea state 5 they only care about surviving it out. (Unless it is a whooping 100K tonnes carrier, or a submarine). Above sea state 3 requires inhumane piloting skills at helicopter operations.

 

[Anmdt]

Could have been much worse. Tusaş had a good run of very few crashes even with prototypes. Remember YF22 crashes or B2 crash due to humidity in altitude sensor or whatever

Lost the engine, autopiloted, landed smoothly. Kudos to engineers, a flying lost the engine but not flight stability.
It is the engine, again.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

I'd keep an eye on the people that immediately show those pictures to the open. I know it's the Anatolian Eagle but still. Maybe some skulls need to be cracked to be fair.

what do u mean ?
I was wondering why all those projects and there arw so little crashs in Turkiye drone / jet programs , i remember only hurkus is crashed .
Those crashes make them better , mature them .
Look at USA all their fighter jets get crashed and they make them better and better . No skull should be cracked , just find the problems and fix it make it alot safer and better .