TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

Strong AI · Sunday at 10:54 AM

Nickel alloy powders for additive manufacturing, which are subject to export license, will be developed in ATOM Project. Turbine parts in aviation engines are made from nickel based super alloys in order not to lose their strength under high load and temperature. In ATOM project, Inconel 718 and Inconel 625 powders for LAM (Laser Additive Manufacturing), and Inconel 718 powder for EBM (Electron Beam Melting) will be produced by the atomization process, characterized and validated through the samples.
The ATOM Project is funded by Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB), and Ermaksan is joined as a main sub-contractor. Ermaksan, which is one of the leading machine provider companies of Turkey and announced a powder bed laser melting additive system the ENA 250, will develop a system for powder manufacturing, and start producing powders on pilot scale.

https://www.tei.com.tr/en/projects/technology-development/atom-en

YAKUT Project intends the acquisition of Selective Laser Melting, which is classified as a potential fabrication method of future in the group of additive manufacturing techniques, to the defense industry with an object to produce prototype components using Ni-based superalloys.
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Within this scope, the integrated fabrication of combustion chamber that consists of 9 different parts involved in TEI TJ90 Turbojet engine has been successfully completed by utilizing the UNS N06625 Nickel alloy in powder form and obtained the required mechanical properties.

https://www.tei.com.tr/en/projects/technology-development/yakut-en

https://www.tei.com.tr/en/projects/technology-development/kristal-en

@Zafer @Yasar_TR

Zafer · Sunday at 11:10 AM

Strong AI said:
Nickel alloy powders for additive manufacturing, which are subject to export license, will be developed in ATOM Project. Turbine parts in aviation engines are made from nickel based super alloys in order not to lose their strength under high load and temperature. In ATOM project, Inconel 718 and Inconel 625 powders for LAM (Laser Additive Manufacturing), and Inconel 718 powder for EBM (Electron Beam Melting) will be produced by the atomization process, characterized and validated through the samples.
The ATOM Project is funded by Presidency of Defense Industries (SSB), and Ermaksan is joined as a main sub-contractor. Ermaksan, which is one of the leading machine provider companies of Turkey and announced a powder bed laser melting additive system the ENA 250, will develop a system for powder manufacturing, and start producing powders on pilot scale.

https://www.tei.com.tr/en/projects/technology-development/atom-en

YAKUT Project intends the acquisition of Selective Laser Melting, which is classified as a potential fabrication method of future in the group of additive manufacturing techniques, to the defense industry with an object to produce prototype components using Ni-based superalloys.
[...]
Within this scope, the integrated fabrication of combustion chamber that consists of 9 different parts involved in TEI TJ90 Turbojet engine has been successfully completed by utilizing the UNS N06625 Nickel alloy in powder form and obtained the required mechanical properties.

https://www.tei.com.tr/en/projects/technology-development/yakut-en

https://www.tei.com.tr/en/projects/technology-development/kristal-en

@Zafer @Yasar_TR

I remember all these but I can't argue with "The additive technologies are not currently used in the manufacturing of HP turbine blades" arguement as I can't verify it at the moment. I remember that TEI achieved like 102% the quality of casting with additive and they are in the process of creating the entire materials supply chain moving on. Thanks for sharing.

Zafer · Sunday at 11:51 AM

Strong AI said:
YAKUT Project

This name resonates with me as I personally had a Yakut Project of my own. I literally tried to make ruby in my senior year in high school. But I got one of the ingredients wrong and I only had budget for one go.

TheInsider · 2025-07-16T12:24:13-0500

Egypt is expected to join the KAAN project after the Chinese reluctance to provide J-35 to Egypt. China values its relationship with Israel.

Huelague · 2025-07-16T12:29:13-0500

Could Spain also be interested in Kaan?

Strong AI · 2025-07-16T12:40:37-0500

TheInsider said:
Egypt is expected to join the KAAN project after the Chinese reluctance to provide J-35 to Egypt. China values its relationship with Israel.

So basically China doing Egypt a favor.

Fairon · 2025-07-16T12:45:06-0500

Huelague said:
Could Spain also be interested in Kaan?

if Kaan matures a bit more and we solve the engine problem, why not?

The Kaan project currently consists mostly of good wishes and intentions. For Spain(countries that alternative options to select) to get interested in Kaan, the project needs to show results or at least a good progress. Kaan is not like Hurjet at the moment.(Especially for the engines. There are no alternative engine available for Kaan on the market)

I am assuming FCAS will end up in failure though.

IC3M@N FX · 2025-07-16T13:12:45-0500

TheInsider said:
Egypt is expected to join the KAAN project after the Chinese reluctance to provide J-35 to Egypt. China values its relationship with Israel.

Extremely unlikely. Egypt has repeatedly criticized Turkey publicly and, together with the United Arab Emirates, has supported Haftar in Libya. Not to mention that they support Greece in maritime areas. Egypt and the United Arab Emirates are the last Islamic countries that will gain access to absolute high technology from Turkey, and that is intentional. Both are very unpopular even within their Arab clique (The Arab League is a Joke).

Zafer · 2025-07-16T13:20:57-0500

IC3M@N FX said:
Extremely unlikely. Egypt has repeatedly criticized Turkey publicly and, together with the United Arab Emirates, has supported Haftar in Libya. Not to mention that they support Greece in maritime areas. Egypt and the United Arab Emirates are the last Islamic countries that will gain access to absolute high technology from Turkey, and that is intentional. Both are very unpopular even within their Arab clique (The Arab League is a Joke).

Times change and they can align better with us.

Strong AI · 2025-07-16T13:21:26-0500

IC3M@N FX said:
Extremely unlikely. Egypt has repeatedly criticized Turkey publicly and, together with the United Arab Emirates, has supported Haftar in Libya. Not to mention that they support Greece in maritime areas. Egypt and the United Arab Emirates are the last Islamic countries that will gain access to absolute high technology from Turkey, and that is intentional. Both are very unpopular even within their Arab clique (The Arab League is a Joke).

Strong AI said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1831736277491712121

IC3M@N FX · 2025-07-16T13:32:04-0500

A trainer and a 5 Generation fighter jet are two different things. Egypt is unpredictable. The transfer of technology and participation in the project would be an enormous risk.
What can Egypt offer apart from money, which is not particularly abundant anyway? It would be just as easy to cooperate with Saudi Arabia, which has more than enough of it.

Strong AI · 2025-07-16T13:33:49-0500

IC3M@N FX said:
A trainer and a 5 Generation fighter jet are two different things. Egypt is unpredictable. The transfer of technology and participation in the project would be an enormous risk.
What can Egypt offer apart from money, which is not particularly abundant anyway? It would be just as easy to cooperate with Saudi Arabia, which has more than enough of it.

Will we have the same discussion after every new potential customer?

Pokemonte13 · 2025-07-16T13:47:50-0500

I mean selling is not that big of a deal although the possibility of isreali spy’s in Egypt would make me uncomfortable when they would have access to kaans sensors and honestly uae is nothing they wouldn’t use it against us but I’m against tech transfer only fuselage is ok just like the Americans did with us with the F35 and it’s not like they have an alternative option if they buy Chinese stuff they risk us sanctions and f35 are not available at the moment and till GCAP OR ( FCAS) are available (10y min) they have no choice but we also need the money and Indonesia or Pakistan won’t cut it

Afif · 2025-07-16T13:48:08-0500

TheInsider said:
Egypt is expected to join the KAAN project after the Chinese reluctance to provide J-35 to Egypt. China values its relationship with Israel.

I don't think that's the case. More likely there isn't enough trust with Egypt to provide them with high end sensitive technology. Türkiye shouldn't accept them into KAAN either.

Pokemonte13 · 2025-07-16T13:50:43-0500

Quick question do you guys think ones the f16s reach the age limit in 2035-40 we will replace them with hürjet I mean it can do most of the job like low cost option or maybe with baykars 20 thousand pound engine it will be a Turkish f18

IC3M@N FX · 2025-07-16T13:52:32-0500

It is only a matter of time before Egypt and the UAE stab Turkey in the back again. Anyone who has been watching closely over the past few years can see a pattern: they play the partner card as long as it suits them, and then switch sides as soon as they think they can get more elsewhere. This has nothing to do with loyalty; it's simply power politics – but in their case, it takes on an almost shameless form.

The regimes in Cairo, Abu Dhabi, and elsewhere have perfected the art of signing agreements only to break them without a word at the next opportunity. Trust is in short supply in this "Arab family" anyway – they can't even rely on each other, and they all know it. Everyone is just waiting to take advantage of the others.

Anyone who fails to understand this should take a look at history and see how many such agreements became worthless in no time at all when it served a short-term advantage. Sharing high technology or entering into strategic partnerships with such people is naive and extremely dangerous.

You can sugarcoat it, talk about "rapprochement" and proclaim a "new era," but that doesn't change the fact that they remain unreliable opportunists who won't hesitate for a second to throw any agreement out the window if they think it will serve them better.

And that's not an insult – it's a sober description of their political behavior.

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