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Kaveri engine trials underway in Russia, to power Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle
The Kaveri jet engine is undergoing detailed trials in Russia and there are around 25 hours of testing left to be done on it. The slots have to be given by the authorities, defence officials informed India Today TV.
The Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), India's premier defence research agency, is carrying out trials of the indigenously developed Kaveri jet engine in Russia and is planning to use it for powering the Made in India long-range Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle (UCAV).
The Kaveri engine is undergoing detailed trials in Russia and there are around 25 hours of testing left to be done on it. The slots have to be given by the authorities, defence officials informed India Today TV.
The engine is planned to be used for powering the indigenous UCAV project, they said. Interest in the Kaveri engine has been revived as there is an ongoing trend in the Evian media, asking the government to #FundKaveri engine project.
(more at link)
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Safran and HAL strengthen their cooperation to produce LEAP engines forged parts
Safran and HAL strengthen their cooperation to produce LEAP engines forged parts
June 19, 2025, Le Bourget (France)At the 55th edition of the Paris Air Show, Safran Aircraft Engines, the world's leading French engine manufacturer in the design, development and production of air...
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Looks like the Ministry of Defence has signaled its intent to move ahead with France's SAFRAN as a partner in the $7 billion program to develop a next-gen turbofan engine meant to go on AMCA Mk-2:
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Bharat Forge inks pact with Pratt & Whitney Canada for aerospace ring mill
Bharat Forge Ltd has signed a contract with Pratt & Whitney Canada to establish a new ring mill for aerospace applications, expected to be operational by 2026. This facility will produce high-performance aerospace products, contributing to India's vision of becoming a global aerospace...
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Nah, these two are not related, plus the deal for the ToT has alr been signed, the only things being discussed right now is the commercial establishment of the facility to manufacture these things.
The tariffs are not on the main exports of India(i.e pharma and electronics) so it shouldn't matter enough for a major defence deal like this.
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India and France to jointly develop and manufacture 120 kN engine for homegrown AMCA
The new engine, set to be developed over the next 10 years, will power the second tranche of Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft. First set will be equipped with GE 414 engines.
theprint.in
As I suspected. Not ToT for American engine in current circumstances.
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India and France to jointly develop and manufacture 120 kN engine for homegrown AMCA
The new engine, set to be developed over the next 10 years, will power the second tranche of Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft. First set will be equipped with GE 414 engines.theprint.in
As I suspected. Not ToT for American engine in current circumstances.
Nope that proceeds as is with the ToT involved in that deal, given the Tejas Mk2 and first tranche AMCA:
Tejas Mk2 and GE F414 engine deal! Here's what it means for India’s fighter jet squad
India has finalised a deal with GE Aerospace and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to co-produce up to 99 F414 engines under licence in India.
www.wionews.com
People don't understand what ToT is in the end. It is largely IP rights over capital machinery moved to facilities.
It is false to say there will be "no ToT" regd the GE-414 production within India to take place over next 10 years while the safran joint project develops and matures for the longer term.
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Nope that proceeds as is with the ToT involved in that deal, given the Tejas Mk2 and first tranche AMCA:
Tejas Mk2 and GE F414 engine deal! Here's what it means for India’s fighter jet squad
India has finalised a deal with GE Aerospace and Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) to co-produce up to 99 F414 engines under licence in India.
People don't understand what ToT is in the end. It is largely IP rights over capital machinery moved to facilities.
It is false to say there will be "no ToT" regd the GE-414 production within India to take place over next 10 years while the safran joint project develops and matures for the longer term.
Yeah, I missed the news. Last I read, there was talk ongoing.
Isn't ToT about secret
Super alloy formula? What do you mean by it is largely about IP rights over capital machineries?
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Any material can be analysed in various spectrometers for decades now....in fact major MRO in world has standard equipment for this (for on site assay, NDT etc).
So the formula is not really the secret for materials....the story of the metal filings sticking to Soviet shoes when they were allowed iirc to visit Whittle's (what would become RR) facility in UK post ww2 relative bonhomie. These can also be found fairly easily in literature too all over the place.
Rather it is the specific manufacture (tolerances, process control, RnD of the capital equipment, the engineers and technicians with expertise in their operation etc, the IP in every granular level of this) of the materials and components.
That is where IP rights come into play as to what is (relative to adjudged receiving party capacity to handle + absorb etc):
A) transferred (at once and then over a spread time integral too) and known/assumed to be readily fungible/transferable beyond it
B) what is licensed (i.e not further transferable and fungible to some degree stipulated) and need safeguards
C) not licensed (i.e IP firewalled) and needing more stringent safeguards (often no capital equipment + their knowhow + teams transferred essentially..... so components are directly imported)
Decent read (especially "Manufacturing challenges"):
Powering Proliferation: The Global Engine Market and China’s Indigenization
The military turbofan engine market proliferates technology nations like China need to build modern jet engines to compete with the United States. This brief explores China’s push to modernize its capabilities and broader dynamics in the global military engine market.
Also a look into US-Japan in more granular detail during cold war regarding this (both for "40%" ToT engines for that time period and the larger airframe and aircraft systems etc too), when you have time to go through:
@Yasar_TR may find these of interest too.
Maybe later I will copy paste and post more on what I mean (especially from cold war era where the basis for today developed as it has) in the larger Jet Engine thread.
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Commercial negotiations for F414 deal will now begin. Meaning all technical aspects have concluded I guess.
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Read earlier that all is supposed to be concluded by March 2026. Let us see.
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The Kaveri programme has moved on to stealth from jet
The Kaveri programme wanted to make an Indian engine for an Indian fighter jet. But that did not work out. Now, the Kaveri Derivative Engine will power India’s stealth combat aerial platform.
Kaveri programme has led to development of Kaveri Marine Gas Turbine and a military-grade turbocharger for an armoured platform, says Dr S.V. Ramana Murty, director, Gas Turbine Research Establishment, DRDO
The Kaveri Derivative Engine has 75 per cent commonality with the Kaveri engine, and the rest is specific to unmanned combat aerial vehicles
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He mentions the fan flutter issue, GTRE addresal of it later with equipment for it
Introduced at some point, but later than optimal:
The matter has been one where funding and capex were insufficient at critical times with the objectives made ~ 1989.
Introduced at some point, but later than optimal:
The matter has been one where funding and capex were insufficient at critical times with the objectives made ~ 1989.
