TR Air Defence Programs

TR_123456 · 2026-03-09T06:36:51-0500

Pokemonte13 said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2030919117142736951
Anyone know if this is true?

Why wouldnt it be?
Not about the source but logic says it shouldnt be a problem if you have produced a complete system already(last year).

Pokemonte13 · 2026-03-09T06:50:10-0500

TR_123456 said:
Why wouldnt it be?
Not about the source but logic says it shouldnt be a problem if you have produced a complete system already(last year).

I mean the overall volume.
In 2023-2024 we received the first prototype battery.
In 2025 we received one in September and one in December.
Im questioning if they can increase their production that fast.
That doesn't even include the normal alp radars under contract for which at least two dozen are being planned( i don't know if they ordered so many i'm guessing).

TR_123456 · 2026-03-09T07:06:19-0500

Pokemonte13 said:
I mean the overall volume.
In 2023-2024 we received the first prototype battery.
In 2025 we received one in September and one in December.
Im questioning if they can increase their production that fast.
That doesn't even include the normal alp radars under contract for which at least two dozen are being planned( i don't know if they ordered so many i'm guessing).

Then we will have to wait and see if they can.

hugh · 2026-03-09T07:08:15-0500

can someone explain how can Siper block 2 missile be bigger than SM-3 block1 missile and have only 150km+ range while the SM-3 has over 1000km range? is it the guidance or something? or maybe SM-3 having no payload(hit-to-kill) has a huge advantage? because propulsion efficiency cannot explain such discrepancy.

YusufKnight · 2026-03-09T07:34:21-0500

hugh said:
can someone explain how can Siper block 2 missile be bigger than SM-3 block1 missile and have only 150km+ range while the SM-3 has over 1000km range? is it the guidance or something? or maybe SM-3 having no payload(hit-to-kill) has a huge advantage? because propulsion efficiency cannot explain such discrepancy.

I think because Siper is single stage while SM3 has 3 stages

Pokemonte13 · 2026-03-09T07:38:03-0500

hugh said:
can someone explain how can Siper block 2 missile be bigger than SM-3 block1 missile and have only 150km+ range while the SM-3 has over 1000km range? is it the guidance or something? or maybe SM-3 having no payload(hit-to-kill) has a huge advantage? because propulsion efficiency cannot explain such discrepancy.

It has to do with the payload. SM3 has basically two main components the rocket and the kill vehicle. The rocket transports the kill vehicle outside the atmosphere and the kill vehicle can move freely with very little propelent to hit its target because their is no air resistance and gravity. Siper block 2 is much similar to PAC 2 and SM6 (without the booster).

begturan · 2026-03-09T07:39:28-0500

hugh said:
can someone explain how can Siper block 2 missile be bigger than SM-3 block1 missile and have only 150km+ range while the SM-3 has over 1000km range? is it the guidance or something? or maybe SM-3 having no payload(hit-to-kill) has a huge advantage? because propulsion efficiency cannot explain such discrepancy.

I dont think its range limited with 150 km, Turkish defence industry allways follow this way, they initially say it has a short range, but then they extend the range a few times later.

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