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So those Rafales are for Vikrant and TEDBF for Vikramaditya to replace the Migs... Tbh I still don't see the point of the program. The artice mentioned Rafale as an "interim" arrangement but in my eyes TEDBF is the real interim before AMCA arrives, and a possible naval variant of it. You've...

There was a known delay of bit less than a year in 2020 due to foreign suppliers issue. Surprised to know that they've caught up with the pre-covid schedule.

You should not forget that Indonesia is supposed to get a fixed work share of production of defined parts, one of them being airframe composites. Though currently the prototypes are being manufactured with parts sourced from Korea which would have otherwise been procured from Indonesia. I...

There are no official numbers, but one could make an educated guess based on the internal fuel load (12k lbs) and the SFC of F414.

You'd know that Indonesia is not paying for the radar technology in the first place. It's malicious to try shifting the goalpost to derail the discussion. Also, go find a country that will sell state-of-the-art airborne multifunction AESA technology for mere $2 billion. You'll find none.

Two, since GE made a flight-worthy prototypes of both the ATF and JSF. In fact, F120 even had a greater thrust than the F119. US had some very mature 1200~1500hp diesel engine designs in the 20th century. It's just that those designs were not selected in favor of the AGT1500. Nowadays those...

Exactly. Though a discussion about RCS could only be held when we compare the models of the two aircraft with EM structural analysis tool. On the surface at least the KF-21 has a more refined stealth design since there is a decade of design philosophy evolution between the two aircraft. (one is...

Again, with which evdience are you saying thay KF-21/IF-X will not be equipped with latest sensor and avionics suite? All these talking out of the ass without prior research is getting out of hand now. Just stop.

They are talking about the 5th prototype which was supposed to be sent to Indonesia. I've explained a few times before what this aircraft is for and the reason they are not sending that aircraft under current circumstamces so I wouldn't repeat again.

That's what you believe, not necessarily what it is, unless you know the details of the contract. More importantly, a bad contract is a contract that solely relies on the good will of the other side of the contract. There's nothing to "overpromise" in that regard. It's either mentiomed in the...

What's really damning is that Indonesian contribution is beyond "just assembling" as I've pointed out before, but the delays in payments and restrictions/scale-backs imposed as a result of those delays are relegating Indonesian participation into the realms of knock-down license production. It...

Agreed, and actually I'll take a step further about renegotiations. It is okay to stop paying as a policy since a contract normally include clauses regarding delayed payments, most of the times in form of a defined interest rate. It would also be against the duty of a clerc to make decisions...

I'm not around here all the time so I wasn't able to witness what happened, but sounds like one hell of a departure for sure. The Indonesian side gets exactly two things in terms of the effects in their industry. One is industry sustainment, as @Anmdt has pointed out. The other is key expertise...

Those two reasons (project share and their demands for Korea to offset with T-129's selection in the AH-X program) were critical, but there were also disagreements regarding production share as well. It was very clear from the beginning that Korea was looking for a junior partner. There's no...

Depends on the scope of the contract. For example Poland decided to only buy the launcher and the control electronics so that they could integrate it on their trucks. More importantly, cost of procuring MRLs mostly comes from the ammunition more than the launch platforms themselves, especially...

They are not excluded from the program and Korea probably will not exclude them even the payment continues to not arrive. They made it clear that there are necessary clarification within the project agreement framework and contract for when there's a problem concerning program partner's...

The thing is, partners are primarily risk sharers, quite evidently shown by various RSP programs that are very common throughout the aerospace industry. Then, if you ask me if the risk involved in the MMU program has changed all that mich since, say a year ago, I'd say it really didn't change...

Yes that is a boundary layer passage.

A lot of folks here are putting heavy emphasis on MMU being purely Turkish, or close to purely Turkish but you've got to always remember and acknowledge the fact that MMU cannot be completely free of off the shelf parts from foreign aerospace suppliers. Aerospace industry is huge but small in...

No, that's plain wrong. During ATF, Sanders and GE were selected for the development of integrated EW suite of the ATF. Later both went through mergers like most of the US Aerospace and defense companies during the consolidation period and were sold to Lockheed and Martin Marietta respectively...