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what a great plan, but still, im still hopping there is a dedicated AAW frigate or destroyer in that list, like French Lorraine D657 (32 Sylver A50 for aster 15 and 30) the one that close to it is the Bergamini class, but still, its a general purpose frigate

MoD : But Ketengan, Ngutang, and without any short of weapons <= Dont know how to say it in english Air Force Chief : (from his heart : smile smile smile smile) o, o, o, okeh sir 😐😐😐😐

which is exactly what they expected, all of US bestfriend like Australia, Singapore and ext don't even have all of their F35 and don't have a big enough expertise on how to operate 5th gen, not to mention in combat situation threating Indonesia with CAATSA and closing the access to F35 are more...

what kind of ToT that we get from Rafale and or F15EX anyway?? another assembly jobs? or maybe something better like build + assembly some of the unsophisticated body part?

Nice, 8-10 years from now when KFX/IFX do meet what it designed for n also the price, it would be a little bit outdated to the other existing 5th or even 6th gen fighters and when they or Indonesia trying to make the 6th gen, still, are you guy's wanna say the same thing about it?? because it...

and that's why TNI sounds like saying "I'm sorry, forgive us for turning you down, i know we already have an agreement but things just got tooo complicated with those Westerns" to the Russian.

why it sounds like TNI is being forced to buy Rafale??? looks like it's not just the US that doesn't agree about SU35, but Indonesian government also disagree

is that a valid one?? the cammo in that photo is not TNI's T50i i found another picture like that from indomiliter.com they also said something similar to it, but they said TNI haven't decide which one they gonna buy (AN/APG-67 or ELM-2032)...

can you provide a valid link for that?? i've just search for it but nothing about TNI's T50 will get a radar nothing more than "we have a plan to equip it with a radar" news

but there would be a drama caused by that Elta's EL/M-2032 or maybe switch it to AN/APG-79?

SU 75 doesn't even a proven design / ready for production aircraft yet.... estimated first flight is 2023, we'll never know if they gonna change or modify the design.... if you guys simply make a judgement based on what you've seen now without considering all the potentials behind it... well...

i believe it's kinda normal why F15 have a higher operational cost F15EX basically its a bigger aircraft compared to Rafale, more powerfull engine, heavier, higher MTOW, faster and ext until Hawk 200 asking for a retirement get ready for SU-75 Checkmate vs F35

yeah, but most of us, Indonesian knows that all of those are nothing more than a result from a political games than why they buy Rafale more than F15EX?? is it because it cheaper? quantity over a suitable role

yup, i just think that if they don't want to redesign the hull for Sylver VLS, they still able to put those asters into Mk 41 plus Mk41 height is around +- 7.8-8 meter, they can put Syver A70 or A50 if they want to change it considering that it's height is 7 meters (A70) and 5 meters (A50)...

5500-5800 tons GP frigate with no medium or long range surface to air missiles?? well, no offense but sounds like it's just Martadinata class with more ayes and bodyfat and how about the Mk 41s?? are they gonna plug it in? or just gonna add more mica's or Camm's..? Aster 30 is another options...

Smart S + Smart L, call it "Smart Vision" ok, let's make it short, NS100 instead of NS200 280km vs 400km worthed??

yeah, NS200... just have to put a sphere dome to cover that NS200 and voila, SAMPSON kw 1...

looks like UK's Type 45 little brother..... but is it confirmed that it'll use SAMPSON MFR + S1850M VSR ??? why don't they chose (S1850M / SMART-L MM) + APAR ?? both of them from Thales plus, from Mandala's post, I can't see where they gonna put that sampson, are they gonna remove the top part...

It this just me or not... those AK-630 is kinda miss placed... too many covered / blocked AOA

but what if it's true?? all those "anti bencana" things are too hard to get off from them...