Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

[Mandala]

Excerpts.

"The Defense Ministry and the working group team will study thoroughly the preliminary concept to produce a state defense strategic document as the outcome of synergy among defense stakeholders within the TNI, he stated.

Prabowo expressed optimism that the joint working group would continue to exist in future in order to maintain the already built synergy.

“The personnel may change, but our projection continues to run. We abandon the old thoughts that in 30 to 40 years’ time no war will happen in Indonesia,” he stated

The formulation of a strategic document is part of the efforts to improve a state defense blueprint in order to take precautionary measures against all sorts of threats and worst-case scenarios, he noted."

Prabowo praises preliminary concept of defense strategic document

Defense Minister Prabowo Subianto has lauded the preliminary concept of state defense strategic document presented by the working group team in Jakarta on ...

en.antaranews.com

 

[Mandala]

Indonesian Air Force Chief visited the MoD.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1476002395343626241

 

[Umigami]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1476002395343626241

KSAU: Yes sir, we air force are ready to receive all those Eagles and Rafale, Happily...
....

 

[Mandala]

KSAU: Yes sir, we air force are ready to receive all those Eagles and Rafale, Happily...
....

MoD: Very soon we are gonna buy you guys the Rafale and Eagle 2. Take it or leave it!!!

Air Force Chief: Oh ok. Yes sir!

 

[FPXAllen]

KFX has airframe that is suitable for development another 20-30 years

I second this.

It's not as if KF-21 design team and engineers hadn't considered for its expansion and further improvements in the future, including, but not limited to, developing it into a proper full stealth 5th gen fighter as well as unmanned 6th gen version.

Some of you may have forgotten that the F-16 itself was at first designed to be a lightweight day fighter even if it has radar. Now look what it has become today: a single engine, all-weather, 24-hours, multi-missions, deep strike and BVRAAM air combat capable jet fighter with all other bells and whistles that the original design team back then may have never even dreamed of.

I'm afraid that we're not going to have 5th gen jet either.

The US ain't gonna sell us the -35s, Su-57 is available for export but CAATSA will deter our resolve, checkmate won't be ready until even next decade and again remembering CAATSA.

So we'll be likely stuck with 4.5 gen jet for quite some time. Doesn't matter if it's Rafale, Viper, EF2000, KF-21.

We could at best maximalize the air force potential by equipping them with the best missile we could buy and investment in ISR platform to increase situational awareness.

Other thing to consider is the streamlining of air force assests.

For Indonesia, I believe we should prioritize to build our air power in sufficient strenght to guard the whole of our airspace first rather than forcing ourselves to acquire and operate a few 5th gen stealth fighter in the next 10 year or so.

But it is also imperative to improve our radar network to close remaining gaps as well as acquiring AEW aircraft.

But again in the region, only first tier air force like Singapore RSAF and Australian RAAF has access to 5th gen jets, other country ranging from Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam etc do have the same problem with us. So at least we could be superior to Malaysia or Thailand that's good enough to achieve.

Thailand has expressed an interest to acquire F-35 recently.

We'll see how it goes with the US since Thailand is also quite friendly with China and have purchased numerous defense stuffs from there.

Anyway, being 'superior' to other ASEAN countries - at least in numbers - in regard to our air force's strength is actually a must, given that we have much more territory compared to them.

 

[Lordimperator]

We'll see how it goes with the US since Thailand is also quite friendly with China and have purchased numerous defense stuffs from there.

Let see if Thai could face the same problems like UAE in F35 procurement

 

[chiphocks]

MoD: Very soon we are gonna buy you guys the Rafale and Eagle 2. Take it or leave it!!!

Air Force Chief: Oh ok. Yes sir!

MoD : But Ketengan, Ngutang, and without any short of weapons <= Dont know how to say it in english
Air Force Chief : (from his heart : smile smile smile smile) o, o, o, okeh sir

 

[FPXAllen]

Let see if Thai could face the same problems like UAE in F35 procurement

I won't be surprised at all if the US will allow Thailand to purchase F-35 citing whatever reasons they can come up with, CAATSA be damned.

 

[R4duga]

I second this.

It's not as if KF-21 design team and engineers hadn't considered for its expansion and further improvements in the future, including, but not limited to, developing it into a proper full stealth 5th gen fighter as well as unmanned 6th gen version.

Some of you may have forgotten that the F-16 itself was at first designed to be a lightweight day fighter even if it has radar. Now look what it has become today: a single engine, all-weather, 24-hours, multi-missions, deep strike and BVRAAM air combat capable jet fighter with all other bells and whistles that the original design team back then may have never even dreamed of.



For Indonesia, I believe we should prioritize to build our air power in sufficient strenght to guard the whole of our airspace first rather than forcing ourselves to acquire and operate a few 5th gen stealth fighter in the next 10 year or so.

But it is also imperative to improve our radar network to close remaining gaps as well as acquiring AEW aircraft.



Thailand has expressed an interest to acquire F-35 recently.

We'll see how it goes with the US since Thailand is also quite friendly with China and have purchased numerous defense stuffs from there.

Anyway, being 'superior' to other ASEAN countries - at least in numbers - in regard to our air force's strength is actually a must, given that we have much more territory compared to them.

spending $50 million for providing a design of indigenous F-35 variants, that either a country who are really desperate on getting such capabilty or just having too much money to spend, my assumption would be either one of the middle east countries or the formosa island settlers.

 

[R4duga]

I won't be surprised at all if the US will allow Thailand to purchase F-35 citing whatever reasons they can come up with, CAATSA be damned.

they have a good NCW portofolio, indeed they are far more ready to receive F-35 compared to us.

 

[Mandala]

Excerpt.

"When receiving the visit of the Chief of Staff, Defense Minister Prabowo was accompanied by the Deputy Minister of Defense M. Herindra, Secretary General of the Ministry of Defense Marsdya TNI Donny Ermawan Taufanto, M.D.S., Director General of Defense Renhan Kemhan Major General TNI Dr. Budi Prijono, ST, MM, CfrA, Kabaranahan Kemhan Marsda TNI Yusuf Jauhari, M.Eng., Special Staff for the Minister of Defense V for Air Force Marsda TNI (Ret.) Bonar H. Hutagaol, SE, MM, and Ses. Sugiharto, S. Sos."

Kementerian Pertahanan Republik Indonesia

www.kemhan.go.id

 

[Umigami]

Excerpt.

"When receiving the visit of the Chief of Staff, Defense Minister Prabowo was accompanied by the Deputy Minister of Defense M. Herindra, Secretary General of the Ministry of Defense Marsdya TNI Donny Ermawan Taufanto, M.D.S., Director General of Defense Renhan Kemhan Major General TNI Dr. Budi Prijono, ST, MM, CfrA, Kabaranahan Kemhan Marsda TNI Yusuf Jauhari, M.Eng., Special Staff for the Minister of Defense V for Air Force Marsda TNI (Ret.) Bonar H. Hutagaol, SE, MM, and Ses. Sugiharto, S. Sos."

Kementerian Pertahanan Republik Indonesia

www.kemhan.go.id

damn, that paragraph is just full with "gelar" and "jabatan" !

 

[wahyu845]

they have a good NCW portofolio, indeed they are far more ready to receive F-35 compared to us. View attachment 37798

Compare with Indonesia NCW cooperate with Scytalys

 

[Lordimperator]

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Compare with Indonesia NCW cooperate with Scytalys

They have AEW, we dont have it yet.

 

[wahyu845]

They have AEW, we dont have it yet.

Yes they have AEW we only plan to have it

we already have the satelite military?

 

[Mandala]

Excerpt.

"The arrival of the Air Force Chief of Staff was greeted directly by the Minister of Defense Lt. Gen. TNI (Ret.) Prabowo Subianto. In this meeting, the Air Force Chief of Staff and the Minister of Defense discussed the defense equipment that will be operated by the Indonesian Air Force and future work programs."

Bahas Alutsista dan Program Kerja Operasi TNI AU 2022, KSAU Kunjungi Menhan - Indonesiadefense.com | Informasi Berita Terkini dan Terbaru Hari Ini Hankam Dan TNI %

Jakarta, IDM - Kepala Staf Angkatan Udara (KSAU) Marsekal TNI Fadjar Prasetyo melaksanakan kunjungan kerja kepada Menteri Pertahanan (Menhan) di kantor

indonesiadefense.com

 

[FPXAllen]

future work programs

I'm more concerned with this, TBH.

Now that we have received some confirmations regarding our next fighter jets and aerial tankers saga, please make the next one about AEW aircraft.

 

[Mandala]

I'm more concerned with this, TBH.

Now that we have received some confirmations regarding our next fighter jets and aerial tankers saga, please make the next one about AEW aircraft.

Concerned or are you interested in?

With this meeting i got a feeling a contract to be sign soon.

 

[Lordimperator]

AEW aircraft

Saab erieye?

 

[Umigami]

Hmmm....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1476130482630897667