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Sure, i did not start this conversation between. Unless mods tell me or ban me for disobeying forum rules, i will not listen to your plea.

It did not start with you last post, lol Irony to be told from somene who is cuck for western ideologies, i am not, do not dragg me trough your personal bias.

I have a feeling that lot of you and some others would harm seriously yourself if AkP win another elections.

Lol, you are calling for civility, you must be kidding while you spit insults all around, right?

If given chance people with mindset as above would make same in Turkey as assad did in Syria, i can not remember when i read this much preloaded crap and olympic menthal gymnastics.

agree with your points and it is broader social issue but as long the protest were within their citizen rights i would not judge them, regarding far right reaction that is surplus, they will condemn you anyways and do their bussiness as usual.

I did not ask for his, I asked for yours. as "desert islamic cult" is part of civilization, which obviously it is, so he is, that is basic logic.

usually people who put people in boxes are biggest cultists themselfs, can you elaborate from which cult membership you are going in to the conversation?

I do not want to go in personal tik a tak, you got message clearly as i see from your reply, stay blessed.

Not my problem, bash it all they long if you want, it is your personal atheistic jihad, just do not get mad to much in your ideology and when people react twith insult to your deity which is obviously secularism.

usually they think if they bash islam they will gain respect from west and be accepted by them, major delusional mistake.

no problem, after the polls are utilized on elections, you can allow this to in istanbul to please human rights activists. is there any problem that "radical islamist" are not responsible in Turkey, that kind of retoric will just stirr the troubles further.

i am puzzled with obsession about different socio political establishments around the world from western perspective as their own is most perfect one, last year i saw that is far from true by empirical evidences.

not only turkey but majority of world will become "some sort of iran", liberal democracies are finished in historical context, spent social force.

and that does not apply to you, you are epitome of objecitivity? pretty bold statement. noone denies figures and setbacks just shading some light on them, how hard is to understand that?

if you knew, you could become new george soros.

well, if this market stock shocks will decide elections and bring you more prosperity, i will not object that at all but i doubt so.

it does not matter, just wanted to emphasize how flawed currency stock market is.

so, what now?

adam smith/ibn khaldun is abandoned long time ago, if it is only factor you would be perfectly fine.