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  1. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Tell that to 08 !!! In case you haven't notice as yet we've been in this discussion for months !! Yet , it was his prerogative who seal the deal !! Tucano was overkill for them .... Papuan operation is a high terrain Jungle guerilla warfare at it finest . Be it in tactical learnings or real...
  2. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    It's a political suicide move for any indonesian politician . And we haven't backed to the corner as yet to make it worthwhile in any political or strategical consideration . Make no mistake .... The option was always available on the table regardles whatever images they are try to pitch in...
  3. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Well , while i hate to bring a rain on all of this parades . Between good plannings and mostly our botched execution in the reality . I'm still holding on to an old formil adage ... ... Seeing is believing ... When there is a will there always a way ... 🛀🛀
  4. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Well , the word kosher there has to be meaning something isn't ?? Rather than paranoia .... We are simply too just densentized and too laid back for our own good . Non Aligned in every sense of the words . We just want to be left alone .We believe in no body which in return everybody won't...
  5. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Double edged was always worrying indeed . Too bad we lack a much off a better neutral provider ...
  6. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    We must look far into the future ! Future possibilities contiengencies and what not . Bit like a condom there .... Better have it when we not need it than need it but don't have it . 🛀🛀
  7. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    We can cater them locally in gradual number . We had the capability and means for it . Any loitering munitions will go to the AU
  8. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Definitely .... 💓💓 Without some serious incident as an impetus that step would be hard to be implemented .
  9. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    https://www.instagram.com/hinata_marin_/?hl=en BAKAMLA will gladly receive such asset
  10. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Wis ra bakal kepilih .... Ra ene wektu karo tempat mbengkel'e ... Kecuali SAAB'e gelem modali awal ndisik .
  11. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Well , i hope it will come true ...it's a long overdue anyway .
  12. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Army,Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD)

    In my eyes .... SRBM and Cruise missile are the same stuff with a different entry deliverence approaches . But , hey .... That is only me
  13. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Depending on the block . Since we allready using the older version and familiar with it . in the overall range NSM were considered as pricier . Not to mention the size of munition/war head differences . It's not an apple to apple comparison .
  14. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Who said we couldn't ?? It's the price tag that deter us for so long ...
  15. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    Yep , i couldn't argue with that ... But , the theme was regeneration these days . It's a tough choices here .....
  16. Ravager

    Indonesia Navy Indonesian Navy, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Laut (TNI-AL)

    MILF aside ... Like it or not she is one of the rarer foreigner that doesn't looked us down in their first impression on us . But i prefer the newer generation tho' Let say ..... Marin hinata . The theme were quite an add up for her .
  17. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    When it comes to versatility nothing beat the gustav . But when it come to the capability the question arw starting to pop up ... Any meaningfull AT munition are coming in double charges . Even that still come in variable result
  18. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    Everything has to start from something . Not to mention portability was always positive edging point in combat . Today decent AT missile class were always requires 2/3 operator for their positioning and operating it . Launcher , tripod/standing and the missile it self . Do not fooled by the look...
  19. Ravager

    Indonesia Indonesian Air Force, Tentara Nasional Indonesia-Angkatan Udara (TNI-AU)

    If we get a RBS -15 , AT-4/NLAW and bundled with griffen E's licension . Then i could setled for less .... Between today achievement and tomorrow sustainment condition we all know what to pick . But before that ..... Total overhaul of PT.DI was a must !!

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