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No. But Both are State controlled. STM is a Company set up by TR Presidential Defence presidency SSB. https://www.stm.com.tr/tr/biz-kimiz/hakkimizda ASFAT is set up by MOD of Turkey. https://www.asfat.com.tr/kurumsal/hakkimizda

I thought it was ASFAT that was responsible for making these ships. Being a state owned and run set up, you would think that such delays would not occur. But I guess if they have to employ subcontractors that are incompetent and bribes are in play, anything goes! That is a shame!

Well, for the Turkish airforce ; Under Peace Onyx-1 Program, Tusas produced 152 block 30 and block 40 jets. (First 8 of the 160 planes came directly from US) Under peace Onyx-2,3&4 120 more planes were manufactured by Tusas. For Egypt: Then 46 more were built for Egyptian airforce. That...

https://www.aero.de/news-43617/Wird-der-Eurofighter-zum-lachenden-Dritten.html According to the Google translate results, Mr I Kalin has answered questions about the purchase of 40 F16V70 planes. He has said that although the F16 purchase is Turkey’s first choice, if not possible we will go...

Unfortunately it is normal practice for a private company to think of it’s bottom line profit before the needs of the country. If you are buying these engines at a very discounted price and have some form of organic connection with the company too, and the engine sort of meets the needs up to a...

Please stay on topic.

Baykar is developing KE with Motor Sich engines. The final engine to be used is a derivative of the engines used in Chinese twin engined Hongdu JL-10 light attack/trainer jet. But these engines are of Soviet era technology. They were not built to be used in stealth planes. Or used in unmanned...

Well, Spanish had started receiving their tranche 1 upgrades at a rate of 1 per month in December 2019. But that was done via Airbus. If we agree with UK, it will be done in UK by BAE Systems. A more intensive work plan can be drawn out. In any case if we act now we have time. They can start...

Well, EF T1 can still be an option if UK is prepared to carry out a very substantial modernisation on them. (I seem to remember reading something to this end) UK, according to their MOD reports have declined to upgrade Tranche1 planes to newer Tranche3 version on the basis of prohibitively high...

Please read the previous posts one more time. No f16 can truly replace the F4-Terminator. These planes’ engines were updated so that the planes could fly at Mach 2.5. F4’s flight ceiling is the highest of any fighter jet thanks to it’s turbojet engines. They still hold the record for it. F4 were...

What you say is probably correct. But the reality of a shortage in our fighter plane numbers is there. Hurjet is a trainer jet. In order to become an efficient light attack craft it needs GEF414 engines, like Korean KAI-FA50 has. Also being devil’s advocate; There is no certainty that US is...

Rafale is a good twin engined “jack-of-all-trades” type of plane. It’s airframe suits carrier operations when navalised. But the small 838 module GaAs Aesa radar it has is way behind new GaAs/GaN Aesa Hybrid Aesa Radar Eurofighter has. It has twice the effective detection range of Rafale’s...

What makes HIMARS so deadly is : 1. It’s manoeuvring capability to evade AD systems whilst in flight 2. Pin point accuracy HIMARS missiles vary in size and range. The long range ones are ATACMS missiles with 610mm diameter have a range of 300km. Only one missile is carried per vehicle. But main...

We need to be optimistic and believe in it to succeed. The real test is Hurjet. It was exactly 5 years ago in 2017 when the program was initiated. If what we have been told comes to fruition, in 5.5 years from it’s start date, this supersonic plane will have flown. Those planes you are...

Yes we will need those planes. Our top brass -political and military - think we will need it. That is why they have asked USA for the V70 planes. To set up an assembly line may take long. But like we have done with T-129, (EDH : Erken Duhul Helikopteri) a squadron or so can be quickly produced...

Good and valid comments and questions. But now is the time to find out how sincere Swedes are about being our allies. We need to ask them to give us a rock solid contract that covers all those points plus at a good price. That will also show USA’s hands; If they will block production of F414...

Even if we modernise all our F16’s to Ozgur status with Aesa radar, there will be a shortfall of plane numbers. Remember we bought 240 F16 planes in total to start with. Then at that time we had 54 Phantom Terminators with 2.5 Mach speed and 18000m flight ceiling. That meant we had 294 fighter...

For a given set initial velocity above graph can be used as a coarse guidance as it gives approximate distances at different launch angles. A missile that can reach 325km altitude near vertical(87.5 degrees), will travel 80 km distance. For the same initial velocity at 40 degrees launch it will...

Sorry if I sounded personal. But my comment was general. I was blowing off steam with a half hearted pun. Acronyms make writing easier when mentioning long winded series of words. But not everyone knows what each acronym means. As we are writing in a defence forum, one would be expected to know...

I hate these acronyms. “Heavy Goods Vehicle”? They mean so many different things. Hypervelocity Glide Vehicle Avangarde, said to be tested successfully by the Russians when they showed it to US officials and supposedly being in it’s serial production state was being delivered to units by the...