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  1. Yasar_TR

    TR Air Defence Programs

    I guess I didn’t make it clear when writing in a hurry! Appologies! I will correct it. It is not a newer version of stinger. It is very different. For one thing the engine is totally new. It is dual thrust. If memory serves, stinger rotates. Sungur doesn’t. Sungur is replacing stinger missiles...
  2. Yasar_TR

    TR Air Defence Programs

    Sungur missile has a dual thrust engine that uses the more quickly burning fuel to accelerate to top speed, then uses the slow burning fuel to sustain this speed to reach target. As it was developed to replace stinger, it came further away from a Stinger base, and it is a very accomplished...
  3. Yasar_TR

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    Mainly yes. But a lot of Turkish subsystems and equipment are going to be domestic and will have a cheaper labour component in it’s cost structure. But due to producing a lot of stuff domestically it may also prove more expensive as some of these items will be devoid of economies of scale. TCG...
  4. Yasar_TR

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    A destroyer class ship of 8500 ton class is not going to be cheaper than a billion dollars. Type45 class UK ship is over 1 billion pounds sterling. That means over 1.35billion dollars. Apparently it costs another 126 thousand pounds a day to keep it at sea...
  5. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    That last sentence is the operative sentence. If that is true and can be done without the assistance of arresting wires then it is a revolutionary leap in carrier based plane operations. Taking off with powerful engine and achieving sufficient lift with the help of wings and sk-lift, is possible...
  6. Yasar_TR

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    True! What TF-2000 will bring to the table is so much more and valuable that it is very tempting. But can we really afford 7 of them? If we can yes let’s have them. More the merrier! Now last info being conveyed to the media was about having 4 of them. That is 4 billion dollars. I guess it is...
  7. Yasar_TR

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    SOM Missile has terrain recognition software in it‘s database. It travels accordingly and hits it’s target even if GPS is not available. Gezgin will have similar self guidance embedded in it’s memory banks as well.
  8. Yasar_TR

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    I do agree with your line of thought. For a country like us and for our geography, having more I-Class ships and more 4500 ton class TF-100 frigates will be cheaper and easier to build. It would make our navy more mobile and active. TF-2000 at 8500tons, is a giant of a ship. Do we really need a...
  9. Yasar_TR

    TR Navy Naval Programs

    As per @Cabatli_53 ’s post, Gezgin Cruise missile that is being developed, will be deployed from TF2000. There is very little news coming out regarding this missile. But it is expected to be 800+ km range. We know that there were rumours about a good number of turbofan engines purchased from...
  10. Yasar_TR

    Australia Navy Australia SSN Program

    This is all, will/shall/ future projects. According to BBC news and below site India has only one indigenously built Nuclear submarine; Arihant! On lease Chakra is apparently on it’s way back to Russia...
  11. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    With all due respect, Russian missiles aren’t as good as they are specified. During recent Pakistani skirmishes Indians have found that the amraam aim120C-5 missiles had quite a bit more range than their Russian R77s. More over a very large percentage of the R77 missiles were defective. Now they...
  12. Yasar_TR

    Australia Navy Australia SSN Program

    All this is because China is getting too powerful to keep under reins. But just look at the current Nuclear submarines operated by 6 countries in the World: According to the latest developments, Australia will become the seventh country with Nuclear powered attack submarines. They will not have...
  13. Yasar_TR

    TR Propulsion Systems

    First Gokbey prototype that flew had a CTS800 engine on it. Now TS-1400 engine is being integrated in to this helicopter. So similar modifications are being or have been done to Gokbey anyway.
  14. Yasar_TR

    Defence Q&A If the EU create its own army, Will that mean that is the end of NATO?

    Another important question no one has yet mentioned is: Who will this army protect Europe from? Russia , Turkey or ??? It can’t be Turkey because apart from Greece and Southern Cyprus no one in Europe sees Turkey as an enemy. Well France sees Turkey as an adversary as Turkey is infringing on...
  15. Yasar_TR

    Defence Q&A If the EU create its own army, Will that mean that is the end of NATO?

    I think the main question here is : Will Europe be able to create it’s own Army? You have Germany that leads it economically. Germany also exploits the satellite countries by using their cheap production and in turn selling to them expensive German products with state supported credit schemes...
  16. Yasar_TR

    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    The important thing is that they will be tackling only 50 of these old machines to upgrade. It will be a good exercise to see if it is worth it or not. Who knows it may prove you right as well. Nothing ventured nothing gained!
  17. Yasar_TR

    TR Land Vehicle Programs

    Turkey’s latest purchases of these M113s were at 633000 dollars a piece. US has sold the latest versions to Malaysia at a unit price of nearly 1.5 million dollars. To dump 4.2 billion dollars worth of equipment would be insane. New locally produced AFV’s will cost may be just under a million...
  18. Yasar_TR

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    With the right engine/thrust level and the ski-lift it is possible for MIUS to take off from TCG Anadolu. MIUS is almost like a delta wing craft. Very wide body. It will have a lot of lift. I don’t care who Selcuk Bayraktar is on personal level. But this guy is an MIT graduate who knows about...
  19. Yasar_TR

    Defence Q&A Which is superior? Russian tanks or NATO tanks?

    To add to my above post I would like to say; You can not really decide by specs given on paper that one tank is better than the other. With today’s war arena it is very likely that no two opposing tanks will be fighting each other face to face, like in WW2. So what is the point about one tank...
  20. Yasar_TR

    Air-Force Argentine Air Force has chosen Pakistan’s JF-17 Thunder

    Please stay on topic ,refrain from ad hominem, follow forum rules.

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