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If the SNA had manpads the russians would bomb from high alltitude missing their targets by atleast 1 km😂 Seriosly they should get alot of manpads, aswell as anti tank missiles. The western world are proffesionals in using proxies around the world. Turkey should do the same method. Tell them to...

Time to give some Sungur to the SNA in syria?

Did you know ? France alone has spent more than 1800 billion francs (+- 2000 billion € ) to defeat the rifains in northern Morocco. To get an idea, that's as much as US spending in 20 years of fighting in Afghanistan.

7 Polisario militiamen were shot dead by Moroccan soldiers today near Mahbes during a land military operation. Among the killed, one is of Mauritanian nationality, another Malian.

What is the speed of the drone that they use as a test target for the air defense system?

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If I'm not mistaken the production will start by early 2025. We will see the first deliveries to the Turkish armed forces followed by the export market. Maybe by 2027? I don't know the production capability that TAI will have regarding the production of ATAK 2.

Still possible to negotiate even if they have not started production yet. It requires trust from the buyer but possible. If it's the T-129 then Morocco could be one of the buyers. We were close to a deal many times but the engine issues stalled the final agreement.

I wonder if he is referring to the T129 ATAK, or the ATAK 2?

TAI General Manager Prof. Dr. Temel Kotil: HÜRJET is doing very well. Getting ready to fly soon. Within the scope of the project, 2 flyable prototype aircraft and 1 static and 1 fatigue test aircraft are produced to be used in test activities.

TAI General Manager Temel Kotil: In 2023, we will make a surprise in export for TAI. There are four countries that we are negotiating with for the export of ATAK.

TUSAŞ General Manager Temel Kotil: "The Heavy Class Attack Helicopter ATAK-2 will make its first flight in the first months of next year. We are finishing it now."

General Manager Bülent Işık: "We have completed the prototype work of the 30mm electrically driven automatic cannon* developed for the ATAK II (T929), we have started the first product production. It can fire 1, 5, 10, 15, 20 and 50 rounds. It can fire 625 rounds per minute. "

President Erdoğan: "We are launching Anadolu, the largest ship of the navy, for use next year. Serial production of Kızılelma begins, we are removing our National Combat Aircraft from the hangar."

President Erdoğan: "Next year, we are launching our İMECE Satellite and TÜRKSAT-6A, whose design, production, assembly, software and tests were developed entirely with domestic facilities. Thus, we will increase our total number of satellites in space to 10."

Got you! Perhaps Pakistan will get the IP rights based on the Jinnah class, and not the PN Milgem. Awesome deal regardless! I guess we will have to wait for more news :)

Correct! I will quote one of the comments you made a year ago concerning the deal of the PN milgem/babur. "The PN Milgem was 3000 tonnes, and including ToT, training of Pakistani engineers, know-how transfer and IP rights for 4 hulls, the price tag was $1.5B. Holding IP rights means that KS&EW...

True now i remember, the babur class is around 2900 tons! Will the jinnah class be a heavier frigate?

Got you. So 4 ada class under the name of Babur, and 4 Jinnah class frigates tailored to their own needs. So how much for both deals? I have only heard about one deal that @Anmdt mentioned of 1.5 billion usd.

Yes, you are right, I know that the Jinnah class will be similar to the Istanbul class in terms of tonnage, and Turkish sensors. I'm more familiar with the Jinnah class, but not the Babur.