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So BMC is going to do the Aselsan Leopard 2A4 NG upgrade from 2011 And no one is questioning why the Aselsan upgrade has been ignored for 11 years, no one questioning to what happened to the BMC upgrade contract that BMC got in 2020? What a country, nobody is responsible of anything. SSB is...

Thanks for the info, interesting. So AMCA started prototyping alread in october 2021 but will have rollout in 2023? In that respect the aim of TFx is faster, rollout is expected in March 2023 while prototype assembly has yet to start. Parts productions are ongoing though.

This is one of those information pollution news, do you really believe all those negotiations go public? To have the real overview one has to await the contract outcome.

We can't dismiss Tejas and T-50 which are our biggest contenders. Hurjet is indeed a bit in disadvantage as it is still in development. But Hurjet has on the other side also the advantage to offer inclusion of Malaysia into the TFx project. Korea has the KFx project. Does India have a 5th gen...

There is already confusion between the Greek members of this forum, like said there is too much information pollution that many Greeks hope for super FDI for the lowest price. Foulgrim says: "2 × Sylver A50 8-cell VLS for MBDA Aster 30 and anti-submarine" (= 16 cell A50, can contain max 16...

I think Greeks are over optimistic and wishful. Sign first the contract and we will see on which the agreements are made, there is too much information rubbish produced by Greek forums and twitter accounts that many Greeks start to believe things like super FTDI for the lowest price. Nice...

Kayra is very good! My sons name

Yes they've all had the CCIP upgrade. That is not the point, my point is why the Block 50 (peace onyx II & III) are not getting the Özgür upgrade, why do we ask the US for Blk 70 kits?

I've watched the program of Hakan Kiliç with Levent Özgül, unfortunately the question that is burning in my mind has not come up. We have requested 40 new F16blk 70'ties and 80 upgrade kits If looking at the inventory we have: 40 F16 blk 50 from Peace Onyx II (delivered in 1996-97 (25 years...

Keske bütün derdimiz isimlendirme olsa. Ama Milli kelimesi yakisiyor

X actually stands for experimental / conceptional. Maybe because TFx is not conceptional anymore, her parts are being manufactured

That's possible, it is what we fear too

Means Turkish type Fast attack craft project. It is just the project name, once those ships are build they will probably get a name like XXX class FAC. The project name is a general one as the tender to select the type of FAC has not been done yet, there are several shipyards proposing their...

No, FAC55 is an STM design. Our FAC's in service "Kilic class" are German designed. It has not for nothing the name "Türk tipi hucum bot"

Fac-55 based on German design? How exactly did you come to that calculus? You used Einstein's relativity theory?

What are the technical details of the Greek drones? Flight ceiling, endurance, data link distance?

What I find highly disturbing is that nobody is even asking what happened to the BMC Leopard 2A4 modernization. What is it why the government is keeping so silent about BMC?

The whole Altay serial tender from begin to end was one big farce. And so goes the theater to her end. Pity and an obvious treason committed

Well US did not only stop Israel but also Canada in the 50ties - 60ties. In a strange way the US supports S. Korea (most likely to keep her as cornerstone against China). Turkey is a bit in limbo, US might try to stop us (maybe not with 4th gen. Hurjet but I do expect some faul play in case...

It's not about crying, it's about how the US prevents even her tightest ally. That should be a lesson for us.