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Erdo himself said in one of his parliamentary sessions that if usa gives f35 to greece we will place s400s close to the greek border Since the americans claim that s400 may be used to obtain data from f35 related to stealth and capabilities by russian technicians.... then giving f35 to greece...

Agree on this perspective tbh^^ Not really.... its not like when erdo wanted air defence systems he immediately chose russia as his first choice Erdo was begging usa for patriots from 2011 (like 10 years ago) and they refused because lovely littke israel didnt want to..... erdo then went to...

Wr Wrong move my friend...... this passiveness is one of the reasons why greece and greek cyprus are dragging you guys by a leash If it was me, i would proudly announce that and state that we are ready to make "deals" with the best bidder...... the prospect of massive oil reserves between...

Dont think so..... Turkey has been pressuring the US a lot about this regard As long as turkey doesnt buy anything russian again.... i think usa wint sell f35 to greece in the near future Useless tbh.... it would be way too big and expensive for a drone.... especially when turkey has good ew...

Honestly any plane from the west is off the table IMO Dont forget that it is those lovely western ppl who are supporting greece's claim Moreover, any orders will probably arrive post 2025 which is useless tbh by then I would like for TAI to develop 5th generation single engine fighter based on...

I If that is the case, then the reward should go to BMC Power I swear.... iam starting to like BMC Power a lot these days.... it is like they are trying as hard as possible to cover the lack of chronic engine industries that turkey suffers from..... really waiting for the altay tank engine Now...

My friend, one of the gold rules in military technology is to not trust any party... not only Ukraine! I kind of understand why Ukraine doesnt wanna sell their engine technology though. They probably feel it is unfair for them to take tb2 technology and give turkey engine technology as engine...

Nice to have a new member in this community; hope you enjoy your stay The more the better! The people here are friendly so you can express your thoughts without care Just an advice..... if u wanna keep these civilized conversations dont enter the turkish politics thread when it gets too heated...

I dont think it is about that tbh If the AKP was selling turkey's interest from a long time ago, the US administration wouldnt be soo keen on kicking Erdo out. Even with the recent progression, iam 100% sure that Biden wants Erdo out as Biden doesnt have time to lead a broken NATO, fighting...

I would like a clarification pls.... Why would you think that israel would have perfect amicable relationship with turkey after erdo? Israel is literally the craftiest country in the region, hands down! They will play with egypt, greece, turkey, and cyprus until they squander every drop from...

I never once in my life thought I would see a Cypriot actually say these words...... just wow Iam astonished So, you would rather go to Greek cyprus; the same place that said they would never even sit on a toilet that a turkish cypriot used, just so that you dont wanna become one with turkey...

If it is a foreign plane, iam gonna bet it would be a F-15

Isnt that obvious? With TFX specs, it will be too ineffecient to hit ground targets with it. I mean you can produce the same damage with an unmanned drone that is like..... 90% cheaper Let the TFX be air superiority yet can do multirole when needed Leave the ground missions to long range...

What about the drone programs being done by TAI? Wasnt TAI making goksungur and another drone near in size to TFX for it to be a wing man? For me, these are more important than the drone by baykar (not saying it isnt important, but these takes precedence)

Not really Erdo would never go against the russians, not only due to the cheap gas, but also because erdo is recieving nuclear technology from russia Russia is a beautiful card to have for now Iam actually quite happy that turkey went out of the f35 program. After you guys did, turkey started...

You need to understand what the F35 embodies What did the participating countries want from the F35 program ? The main task of the F35 program is to produce the fifth generation version of the F16 The F16 being one of the most cost-affordable, cheap, effecient planes that can perform several...

Again, wrong thought process If that is the case, then why would companies like MBDA sign co-operation amd tecnology transfer protocols with Halcon missile, UAE? Like turkey has corrruption but UAE doesnt? My friend, it is all about geopolitics and competition Ever since turkey went against the...

That is a wrong mentality If we went with this thought, then 60% of the ppl here wont talk about anything It doesnt matter where you live in as long as there is some sort of contribution to the forum (without needlessly offending anyone)

Mate that method of thinking is wrong (no offense) You say that the Turkish youth are losing hope and perspectives for the future. If so, then what about that syrian kid? He doesnt have a home, he doesnt have a state, his relatives may be blown into pieces by rockets and artiller fire in his own...

Peace with the PKK is impossible. Erdo tried it before, and when they reached to areas of conflict in the peace treaty, the PKK would just carry out indiscriminate attacks on the ppl The PKK are composed of radicals who wanna split from turkey to form Kurdistan just like in iraq. That is why iam...