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While Torries were in charge Ottomans had good relationship with Britain, Deisraeli was friend with Turks and by the way enemy of the Jews. When the Whigs ( Liberals) were in charge, the story was different. Ribbentrop Molotov pact wasn' t the pact among the buddies. Anyway

I forgot to add , by let's say 2030 , how many flying hours will be left in many F 16 frames and the engines? So EFs will take a lot of pressure from KAAN frames and will take the function of F4s. So I think that the option for extra 20 frames will be excised , I just hope that EFs will have TVC...

I think that it will take at least 2 to 3 years to train the pilots and develop the tactics in order to fully tap in potential of KAAN. Also, at least a squadron to squadron and half is necessary. All of that plus still testing of the various things at the same time. I don't think that Turkiye...

Well no money for China and that's good enough for me

This is absolutely horrible deal but it is what it is . I would say it will be at least 18bn for 44 aircraft. Probably not much of weapons either. 5, 6 bn of pounds for 20 planes and weapons? I don't think that many weapons and engines come with that. This is probably worse deal then 21bn$ for...

Qatar is building air base in USA, which indicates that they might get more F 15s and with that replace EFs. In that case it would be logical for Qatar to operate only F15 and Rafals. Who knows, maybe they get F 35s? Hopefully, Turkey will get few T1 models on the cheap and use them as training...

I am sure that Omani Typhoons are better than any F 16 apart blocks 70, maybe? Also, F 4s can be retired and Typhoons are lot better than those. Omani Typhoons can take loads of F16s. Type as they have longer range, can be parked furtherer away, it complicates thing for adversaries. Also, the...

The most important thing out of all this is THE FACT that a lot of people everywhere have realised that existence of the Zionists brings human kind into danger. From now , the things will go down the hill for the Zionists. Boomers are dying off and younger people, both on left and right...

Please if you can rewrite your message, in that case I would get what you really mean. So , kindly try something better, I would truly appreciate that. Thanks you in advance

Truly strange, F16, Rafal ,Kf21, Su 30, planing for KAAN. This doesn't look like serious people to me. This looks like buying the favours. Exactly what Arabs do. Another thing is , just like Arabs seemingly Indonesians love to have their eyes full . Wherever you turn your had " Hey presto , a...

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I presume, some of those are the reserves ?

OMFG ? That's not befitting for person like you, Estagfirullah

Oh , I hit my target once or twice. It wasn't a piece of paper, though . Anyway, I came across a rumour that some Turkish company wants to buy Manurhin. That's truly legendary pistol . Creme De La Creme.

I don't think by appeasing everything what other people want will get anyone, anywhere. If you want to appease everyone, then what would be the point to build, great deal of weapons that Turkiye does? No need to spend billions.

I hope that Bayraktar doesn't accept any sort of co operation.

It is time for these liars to live with their bases from Turkey. Nothing can be worked out with them. Not surprising really. So no need for f16 from them and no need for f35. Not a f penny. Boing planes, I understand. But nuclear deal and gas deals should be abandoned. Turkey won't be...

I think that people who into defence matters should have some realism. Turkiye was supposed to have by now 50 to 60 F 35s. USA lied and stole 1,5 bn , no? France wasn't ever going to sell Rafals to TAF, Sweden also never wanted to sell Gripens, Germans never wanted till recently to sell...

How to make coherent policies with people like this? You can't possibly know, who this guy is, no? Maybe, he is a trap set out for Turkey? Or this

I think that this is just a payment for Pakistan, to get their nuclear weapons under control. USA suddenly turned ( apparently) their back on India, Chief of Staff visited USA etc. Also, probably Saudis are paying Pakistan, not to share nuclear with Turkey. As of the unity or some front against...