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Some of you guys need to chill. @RadarGudumluMuhimmat is presenting a constructive argument here. But you guys suddenly going in defensive mode.

It's sad that Aselsan couldn't manage to get the whole upgrade package/

It's all over Lale devri again. And people defending building palaces as if it contributed anything to the country. You guys have the mentality of these arab kings. This show-off brings nothing. No country envies us because we have fancy buildings. Maybe if the country is so rich and its...

Yeah, scientific theories are stupid. Your religious view makes you blind.

The end-user is Airforce so they are the one who will set the minimum requirement, who else would specify the requirements?

SSB could put the locality rate as a requirement, then let the companies decide whether to make an offer or not. When BMC got the contract there was no national engine and powerpack around, they even partnered with Rheinmetall for the production. I am not sure how exactly BMC wasting money...

It was not the aim, was it? If this was the aim , the engine and transmission project also would have started in parallel with the tank project.

Great progress in 6 months...

If akp wouldn't fucked up the Turkish economy, the mayor would take credit from the Turkish banks instead of French ones. If akp supported chp municipality projects as they did with akpian municipalities they wouldn't take credit from French banks. It's not kissing anybodies butt ffs, the loan...

Flying with Ts-1400 engine?

I know this is for okk but would be better if we have higher caliber gun on it. Btw, is that 40 mm granade launcher at the back?

Last time I checked, BMC was demonstrating their solution for it with an Altayish turret, rather than Roketsan armor package. And lets say armor package from Roketsan, electronics from Aselsan, there is no added value from BMC for this upgrade. Not sure why they are included there. Btw, people...

I lived in Izmir for 12 years, I'd rather prefer living in Izmir than Istanbul. Again, as Istanbul was under akp rule there was more investment supported by the government there. For example about the metro https://www.sozcu.com.tr/2019/ekonomi/metro-icin-izmire-kurus-yok-3631184/

It supposed to be AESA.

And enlighten us. Lets not talk about altay project because it's delaying because of engine and transmission. What is your excuse for Leo upgrade? They still couldn't come up with a proper solution.

When was the last time CHP was on government? Akp is the one hinder project of chp municipalities. It's not other way around.

Aselsan could provide that.

What is proposal dude, killing all? Reeducating like China does to Uygurs?

Sure but again, this is not the first time they formed a party. What will stop them to establish another one. Do you think closing the party really solves anything? You can cut the treasury share from the party if you don't want money to go to the party. There are 6 million people voting for...