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Eastern europe goes to Russia too and the balkans will turn into another Syria. Not to mention that Russians will find it much easier to influence north africa since Turkey won't get in their way. Turkish politicians dont seem to understand the weight of their geography. Israel starts to panic...

they always withdraw their forces as "a gesture of goodwill", no your withdrawing because your getting your arses kicked. Russians dont know what goodwill is. I was hoping that snake island would continue for another 6 months, its was basically a kill zone for Russians. Whoever they sent onto...

Turkey downed a Russian jet when no one had the balls to even look Putin in the face. Our NATO allies removed their air defences from our border, their media demonised Turkey, and various political figures openly said "kick Turkey out of NATO". Despite this then Turkey escalates to conduct...

Assad at this point is just a russian slave.

another diplomatic disaster from erdogan. An exceptionally weak leader.

keep losing.

The most basic thing he could have done was had a 2 year good behaviour period. Say to sweden and finland you have supported terrorists for decades against me. I want you to do everything i want now and we watch you over the next two years and provided you stick to your side of the agreements we...

Then you exit. Everything has to have a cost otherwise they will shit on Turkey indefinitely. But they wont kick Turkey out, they kick Turkey out europe is done for and Isreals starts to fear that Turkey allies with Iran and Russia, steps back from Assad. Turkish people fail to understand the...

So lets say within the next month they join NATO, what do you do 3 months down the line when its clear they are still supporting terrorists against you? The Turkish grand national assembly will mean nothing and erdogan will claim again "I was deceived". Already this nonsense agreement shows you...

If americans wanted Turkey out of NATO no mechanisms would stop it. Legal agreements apply to the weak differently to how they apply to the strong.

and let me guess anyone who points out what a failure it is is demonised as secularist, or a CHP supporter or someone who hates Islam? Turkey may be done for. Eventually it moves into a theocratic dictatorship, it becomes so economically and socially weak that the outsider eventually breaks her up.

Ok, why not say they have to do all these things now and then show good behaviour for 2 years and we can come back and evaluate the application? There was no law that they needed to join immediately.

Yep you let in another 2 nations who are openly hostile to you. In NATO they will find it easier to harm Turkey then they did outside of it.

I'm sure they could have put a special clause in there. The EU puts special clauses in just to target Turkish membership in the organisation. Like every state gets to have an independent referendum on whether Turkey joins or not should they finally look to accept Turkey in. Personally the right...

I expected a mechanism that allows Turkey to pull the plug at any time on them should they revert course. tomorrow Russia attacks Finland and Turkey is expected to support her with her army, while the fins support terrorists against us? We must be a nation of muppets. Erdogan said we wont...

You wont get results from AK party, erdogan is just a poser he's no Ataturk.

Does ragip ever lay the blame at AK partys feet? He always posts about things that humiliates the Turks, but he never seems to blame AK party for it.

Don't buy into that crap their admittance will be quick and swift.

There is only really two explanations, either they are incompetent or they are treasonous, either option is bad bad news for Turkey. If they are incompetent you need them out of there, running a nation is no joke especially in Turkeys geography. If they are treasonous then your in big trouble...

It wont stop monetary or arms support, because their is no mechanism in place to stop it. They should have written this agreement on toilet paper then flushed down the nearest toilet. This level of incompetence is amazing. You could have taken any one of us on this forum and we wouldnt have...