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To be fair, putting Hisar O’s instead of these Hawk’s would not be a bad idea. These old relics from the 60´s should have been scrapped a long time ago anyway.

Pakistan getting the Kaan around 2030 is very unlikely, unless TAI delivers all the required Kaan to the Turkish Air Force and TEI delivers the indigenous engine ready to be exported before that date, which is again, very unlikely. 😃

They were in international waters when the Russian boarded the ship. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/13/europe/russia-warning-shots-black-sea-intl/index.html

You are 100% right, especially the ‘’Germans’’ lol, I laughed.

Damn I thought Hurjet would enter service in 2025. ☹️

I agree, in addition to that, not every countries in Europe supports the PKK, Poland and Romania for example don’t support them.

For real, when we ask about the MURAD integration into the F-16’s, we always hear ‘’soon’’ or ‘’very soon’’ since a year at least. Enough already.

Kaan won’t be exported that easily. It will be exported solely to allied and stable countries.

Yeah I forgot to precise it. My bad.

Will Turkiye catch up with Western aircraft manufacturers? Video from Até Chuet :

Any news regarding the TF-6000 engine ?

Islamist selling our country. What a surprise …

These two countries aren’t comparable. Azerbaijan isn’t on the brink of a collapse and maintained afloat by a rival country. Anyway, like I said on the Çay Bahçesi thread, I just hope we won’t regret it. US is ahead of us in every field, let’s give them the blueprints of our Kaan and god...

On the fact that China can do what ever it wants with Pakistan. Remember that we’re talking about the Chinese. Their eagerness to copy, steal, and learn foreign critical tech is well known, they’re not even hiding it. Will be a good opportunity for them if they can get their hands on Kaan for sure.

Highly unlikely. Pretty sure Turkiye have the necessary means to built nuke on it’s own. It’s just a matter of political will.

We are too naive and too emotional, too ‘’kind’’, that is why. I sincerely hope that we will not regret it in the future.

Like you said, they don’t even have the necessary fund to support the project. So what will they bring to the table ?

@boredaf Look what is happening. We’re giving one of our most critical project to China.