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We have to wait KAAN. If we pay money for 200+ F-35 or Eurofighters or Rafales we cant pay the cost of KAAN. BTW we should have produced not 270 but 400+ F16

Didnt Soviets air force far stronger than current Russia now?

We had many Anka and Tb2 and other UCAV so our ground attack abilty is strongest now. That s important that to fight PKK and other terrorists.

JAPAN is a different situtation

Yes but 1,Their higher defense budgets needed to pay their far higher salary. 2,We,just like Chinese,had a lot of fund to pay defence industry which not including in the defense budgets .Turkish armed force is very rich and had many companies.

They have a high welfare policy, and the money they can invest in national defense is very limited

Rise export,Keep account surplus,stable the TL Thats the only method.

I meant there are sad people without house and happy house owner.the number is half-half. Crisis for half and the heaven for another half

HAHAHAHA I will say that again ,as Japanese come,Tempset will became a new F-2 or total fail project. X-2 Shinshin ,F3 and xf9 engine had disappeared for years,after Japanese propaganda Japanese defence industry has the abilty to ruin every project

I meant MKE had this gun but not in their homepage Also they dont have showroom in ISTANBUL.

I focus on French and Japanese for 20 years they didnt achieve anything since F-2 and Rafale,just write papar everyday. FCAS and Tempest will end same as Mitsubichi Space Jet and Dassault nEUROn

No i cant find any store had this gun Even it is in MKE homepage. https://urunler.mke.gov.tr/Silahlar/ATA-9-S%C4%B0YAH/90/2225 It is in their English webside https://tamghaarms.com/products/ But not in Turkish website? https://www.ataarms.com/tr/

I think if KF21 cheap enough, they will sell very good.

Yes you are right. Btw today I went all the store to have a look.Seems only sarsılmaz has a big showroom and many staff to explain everything.The others only has 1 staff that falling asleep and know a little But sarsılmaz reputation a bit bad

Thank god finally But why we got so large deficit last two years ？ I remember that in 2019（or 2020?) We got surplus yearly

Canik

I get the belge today.i will go mke next Monday

I guess KAAN would be as few as J20 and F22 And KF21 or Upgraded version of Kızılelma will replace F-16 and MIG29s

They maybe choose Korean KF21 Also the Japanese toy if they do as well as they claimed(but i didnt trust any Japanese claims from 2005,their F-3 with UK would end like Dassault nEUROn,japanese super engine IHI Corporation XF9 slient more than 3years)

About the F-16s 1.Are we still going to buy 40 F-16V and 79 upgrade kits? 2.These 40F-16V will produced in Turkiye or imported directly from US? 3.We had Özgür for all F-16,why we still need 79 upgrade kits?Can these 79 F-16s use　domestic weapon?