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Well I would liked to have agreed with you but facts are there, first proto of the Altay was in 2012, 13 years later still not in production. Is anything but success, no matter if in the meantime some minor upgrades have been made

I remember we ware making fun of the Indian Arjun tank project. With Altay we managed worse than the Indians

LOL those trenches helped soo much last time :) Armenians will try the same useless trench method?

Yes but the canal is going to save historical buildings???? How? We cannot close off the Bosphorus. If we could you may have a point.

Well I do not believe 20 aircraft in the first year too, first see than believe but that production rates significantly upped cannot be a problem for our industry. Turkish industry has crossed a threshold in production capabilities, she can easily double, triple production rates

Pulling up the production rate is quite possible. Tomtas factory can take over a lot of production like helicopter and Hurkus / Hurjet prodcution and free up capacity at TAI

Thank you all for the answers. These are your answers: 1) Kaan will replace F16s. Eurofighter will replace F4s. 2) what is the earliest KAAN could reach FOC with the Turkish air force? 3) Because we need the fighter jets today and not tomorrow. 4) Its also called not putting all your eggs in...

So and now somebody tell me again why do we need the Eurofighter??? If Kaan is to be delivered in 2028, than Why the f. do we need Eurofighter? Are we extreme rich and masochists? Either they tell us a lot of BS, expecting big delays in the Kaan project or something. Having Kaan delivered in...

Hurjet as platform is very similar to the Boeing T7. As platorm she is not unique but Hurjet is to get a unique feature. She will be like with Kaan able to link with unmanned drones. As you can imagine core of 5th / 6th gen fighters will be having a "loyal wingman" and Hurjet at the moment is...

So? Let 4 of them remain with a small difference. I think instead of putting money into: 4x MLU upgrade on the Milgem + buildng 4 Hisar class Why not build 4 brandnew I-class + downgrade the 4 Milgem corvettes to OPV (instead of building 4 Hisar) Would cost approx same amount of money Our...

Milgem corvettes near the age of MLU upgrade. Instead of upgrading those Milgems, ain't it better to turn them into "Hisar class" OPV and build 4 new I-class to replace them

Nobody even knows yet the definition of 6th generation. What features will Tempest have that Kaan does not, let us discuss the features. Let's make the differences visible and argue on that. Here let me start with the only feature I know in which the Tempest can be better and that feature has...

Secondly nobody speaks it up, we were also partner in the F35 program. What happened? Who says a Britain (who did not give our ships in WW1) will not at a point when their interest requires so kick Turkiye out of the Tempest program? What guarantees are there? I do not think that a tempest...

The French do not have high hopes anymore in the FCAS project, too many differences with Germany and looking more like a repeat on the Eurofighter which France left to build her own Rafale. Britain already partners Italy and Japan, Turkiye would come in as a small 4th partner. Why help Rolls...

FCAS and TEMPEST are project that are behind Kaan, we have already a flying prototype. The only area we are behind is engine technology and also there we are catching up. You guys think Tempest will be better? I have severe doubts, look at Baykar how important own product is would Baykar have...

And you know this how? You have access to state secrets? Or you just speculate? Tempest or Eurofighter are just platforms, sure the platform has to be good, fast and stealth but more important is what you put inside like optronics, radars, engine, self defence suite, armament etc. Why...

Question would be "Why would we be interested in joining Tempest while we have Kaan" Goes against every notion of our aim of being "independent"

Well that is to be awaited, if this project is also financed in the "yap islet devret" with state guarantee of X number of ships passing yearly like all our (huge) loss making bridges and highways it will quickly become another black hole in the state budget, and for what? We cannot close the...

This project is to create a fake economic "rise", China used for long the heavy construction building that drove the Chinese economy. However this is a kind of policy that is creating a balloon effect and in the end one of China's biggest construction companies together with a few banks went...