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It was ASFAT producing the Firtina for $4.2mln. Now they do not even tell at what amount BMC is producing the Firtina, why? It has suddenly become a secret? Same factory, same personnel is producing it under BMC. Can any of you with straight face tell the price is nearly the same or with some...

I wonder what these "defenders" of BMC has to answer that a factory of ASFAT is taken en given to BMC. And that factory is producing now the howitzer and tank. What is the plus value of BMC here? They are investing 50mln into the factory while eating up billions, wow what a good deal!

Why are defenders of this non transparant issue always bringing up Otokar, is there no FNSS and or ASFAT? Is Ethem going to tell what kind of robbery he is doing? SSB is the responsible institution who has to be transparant here, they are the institution who are the purchasing department. Not...

Oh smart calculus without tender, just to defend a whole process without any transparancy. We have to trust the words of Ethem the saint.

Why should the price be secret (unless a robbery is going on)

So it is Ethems job to announce the tender revelations. Why has SSB kept mum, never announced the tender results? A bit shame perhaps? The whole process stinks from all sides. One thing you are correct, there is indeed a robbery going on

$18mln per tank is not for free. and Rheinmetall did not drop out because of the price, they did so because Germany did not allow. Why are you pretending the Germans left because of price, which is freakishly high

BMC with her Israeli products is everything anti to what SSB stands for, that's why I have a dislike otherwise why would I be against the company as I have no stake in any of them

I don't believe the design belongs to BMC. Kirpi and Vuran are Israeli designs. It makes me unhappy that Otokar and FNSS are victimized for this company who is against everything SSB is standing for (nationallization / independence)

Don't want to sound mean but did Baykar buy those jackets from BIM?

True, the flight deck is shorter but check out the flight decks of the Aircraft carrier, they do not use longer landing and take off paths.

Could it be that pilotless Hurjet = Goksungur?

This is what Russia plans the new aircraft carrier Varan Varan = 250m long, and 65m wide compared to TCG Anadolu = 232m long and 32m wide The main difference is being wider and having more space to land, I do not see reason why this problem cannot be solved by using OKIS system for...

These are technical details that can be solved (by using for instance 2 different arresting systems, one for Hurjet, one for drones) Hurjet and Harrier have approximately same size, just to have an idea the picture below

If you look at F35, it can short take off with the ski jump, the landing it does vertically (STOVL) If say Hurjet can take off short like the much heavier F35, only the landing part needs to be taken care off. Maybe the OKIS (Otomatik Kalkis ve Inis Sistemi) can be of use to land the Hurjet...

Not STOVL but STOL Hurjet cannot do vertical landing

I was thinking the same, could it be that CENK is a licensed (NS100) like Aselsan licensed the Smart-S?

Simulation can always be, but IMO a radar in a trainer aircraft is a plus (TUSAS needs something more than competition to find markets) Anyway these are speculations, we get spoiled easily and are already dreaming how our aircraft can be outstanding. :)

The Hurjet trainer will most likely get a mechanical radar Hurjet light fighter I expect to have AESA

Did you guys know that 5.5% of Airbus belongs to Tusas? source Yasin Kaygusus of Tusas