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I think T1's already were decided to be scrapped, the way I understood is the 2nd hand EF we are getting wouldn't be those but newer ones

I'm all for second hand if it means they will enter inventory next year, that would be very fast, and we can hopefully modernize them to tranche 4.

F35 does have really bad management though. They produced 1000 without getting it to a baseline quality and performance and now they all need very expensive upgrades and non US customers decided to not go for the upgrade, creating a mess of variances. Plus the integration of european munitions...

Yes that's what I was responding to, you can have huge nuclear subs, there are those smaller than milden as well.

I mean depends on size. Ohio class is 16000 tonnes and can carry 7 tomahawk in a cell or same cell can carry one ballistic missile. It's huge, heavier than ticonderoga cruiser

Another issue is pilot training difficulty. We have had help from Pakistan to train pilots after the coup attempt I heard from a few people. Eurofighter purchase likely includes pilot training and comes with ability to join more NATO and non NATO drills and exercises with other eurofighter...

We were first contemplating eurofighter as an alternative, but UK and other didn't like being the backup and told us to make up our minds basically. And force saw a risk so they decided the urgency for more fighters justifies the eurofighter purchase. The timeline for when kaan will be...

Its also called not putting all your eggs in one basket.

To add further to this I would think that in an increasingly difficult sea environment to maneuver in, we should focus more on submarines, small and large, like russia used then as kalibr carriers. Usvs come second to that. All surface vessels are very vulnerable

Which one would you prefer? I feel like however fast the FAC goes, in close proximity they will be very vulnerabke to other elements. Whereas with higher displacement and endurance, they can be more versatile and take different missions around mediterranean.

So it has come to where I wanted, our version of Karakurt corvette. I hope all our ships with atmaca can optionally deploy gezgin or kara atmaca as well.

So we should make TF/A - 18 A/B? Naval hürjet should just be a stepping stone for something better that will come later.

MUGEM and it's task force will not be used to invade france, egypt or india, so that's fine. It's not supposed to fight head to head with major powers. If at most it can shoot outdated sukhoi planes in africa or something it will be fine. Otherwise the drones could be very useful extra piece in...

Difficult to add to stealth s ducts though, isnt it

Hello, I remember that a different, civilian company was initially considered for the radars. So this has changed, then?

It's about wether the ship has air defence or not more likely

But high altitude performance suffers in comparison

I think the 6th gen laser weapons with enormous energy generation is going to end up too expensive and not very feasible. Plus there's the issue of cooling. KAAN also has 120 kVA generators for each F110 i think( so 4 times that of F16 and more than current F35(minus apu) even)

I mean look at the mast upgrade of barbaros class, it shouldn't be that difficult to put larger mast on hisar