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  1. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    So you just going to leave all these folks like this....in this manner....for pennies on the dollar literally. ...and take the gut punch to crucial things like trust and alliances going forward (that will now all be affected by this). It makes no sense to me. Occam's razor clearly points to...
  2. Nilgiri

    India Space Indian Space Program

    https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4229/1 Sobering read @Gessler
  3. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    That be as it may (and I guess we will see).... I strongly feel going purely by US perspective solely (which as you know I am aligned with in various ways...some more than others) there was severe botching by Biden admin from executive side. Given: A) Initial rationale for the intervention...
  4. Nilgiri

    TR Turkic- Military culture thread

    Tbh I can see why ottoman higher ups rejected it. The (already thassalocratic) empire is lot larger and beset with lot more issues (from their perspective)...compared to city states like Genoa (where C. Colombo was from) and Venice....and "medium sized" yet aspirational kingdoms (like Spain and...
  5. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    Well that is part of the point I am trying to make. Afghans themselves have different perception of each other on tribal lines....as to who is local and foreigner. So how can they really come together and say collectively someone else is a foreigner? It boils down to are you interfering...
  6. Nilgiri

    Historical Combat, War, Geopolitics History and Analysis

    Occidental-centrism providing the raw fountainhead for understanding of history. The Occidentals (esp anglo saxon subset) have most of the soft power at large for it (in last few critical centuries)... I mean here I am typing to you in English after all. It was an Afghan (under much earlier...
  7. Nilgiri

    Casual Discussion The Meme Thread

    Another thing I can't unsee now. Sheeesh. Thanks Fuzuli! You da best.... :P
  8. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    This is true. Regardless, Biden (quite specifically him) has messed this up beyond all reason. There was no reason to rip off the bandaid at this severe impulse and depth. It is becoming quite clear now, he ignored and overruled pretty much every advisor and intelligence report afforded to...
  9. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    In best of times (security + legal framework available in area), its headache for large infra logistics coupled with natural resource extraction (to pay for it)....in the hope that some of it is invested long term for something more sustainable economy wise. It is why the US literally brought...
  10. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    It is funny and ironic that people conflate Islamism and Islamists (and opposition to them) as "hating muslims". I suppose there are lot of self-hating Muslims out there....according to them? Then the intellectually devoid make typical grandiose assertions and ad-hominem based on it.
  11. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    Woah there fella...you've had too much to think!....The puritan islamist thought police are here to save the day regarding you and the other scoundrels in the kuffar and takfiri "unpure" larger miasma. Please take it easy, sober up... and try to understand: This school mass-murder lot are on...
  12. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    So how would the average Uzbek, Turkmen or Tajik perceive a fanatic pakthun telling them what and how to do things in most intrusive way....at the barrel of the gun? A local?
  13. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    This is why I say thank God for Ataturk, Secularism and strong+deep Turk identity (well past religion). It is the biggest bulwark against this medieval savagery and barbarism. I mean you and others have mentioned repeatedly what the Islamists, neo-Islamists et al have been trying to do...
  14. Nilgiri

    TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

    You are approaching it with a good principle...so there is literally zero insult (if receiving end appreciates what that principle is). More Indians need to hear it (many are deluded/ignorant, have too much ego they generally "cross-harness"... and/or deflect to some silly apologism/excuse)...
  15. Nilgiri

    Uzbekistan|News & Updates

    https://defencehub.live/threads/indian-army-general-archive.122/page-3#post-107544 Indian army exercise with Uzbeks....that took place earlier in year. @Kartal1 et al.
  16. Nilgiri

    Historical Combat, War, Geopolitics History and Analysis

    As with lot of times, the answer is "it depends"....
  17. Nilgiri

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Happy Independence day to all Indonesian members here.
  18. Nilgiri

    Canada Navy Canada SSK program

    It is very close up at the top (this is purely qualitative realm). These are splitting hairs tbh...and there is always issue of the small biases (given you haven't read/served in all systems equally). This is generally what I have gathered from people I trust a lot and/or served. i.e who have...
  19. Nilgiri

    Live Conflict Afghanistan - United States War(2001- 2021)

    I am just saying lets wait to see how it all pans out, this is: A) very early days w.r.t new context situation B) this is afghanistan.
  20. Nilgiri

    Canada Navy Canada SSK program

    In fact I know this w.r.t qualitative basis especially. Having talked to number of well experienced Naval folks in the know. The 5 top navies qualitatively are generally agreed upon: USN, RN, RCN, RAN and Dutch. French, Italian, Japanese and bunch of others make the honour rolls just after...

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