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I'd agree overall. The doctrine suggests more intent in sub-surface potency given its relevant force-multiplication (w.r.t investment and time needed) to the Pakistani naval situation at large (and options there w.r.t what's rigid and flexible). I would go far as to say the surface fleet is...

Never underestimate two things: A) The short term perceived utility in a cop out + convenient bogeyman to the highly insular, ensconced and privileged B) The long term consequences and how they end up playing out This affects every society, only the issues and degrees vary.

You win some, you lose some. Not every project can turn out like East Pakistan in the end which is far better return than AFG could ever hope to be. Former East Pakistan now exports something like 3 times what its western remnant does now....and has basic impetus to become 3 times more...

Throwback time:

What do @Anmdt @DAVEBLOGGINS think of this design?

I agree...I have raised this issue wherever possible with people in the know. I would steer clear of shortfin barracuda personally...one ends up paying SSN prices without the (N). Just look at the Aussie nightmare unfolding on it. CSC cost escalations are already going to be massively painful...

More or less whatever ends up happening (say best case scenario for longevity and AI etc), it is baked in problem from the decades of 1 child policy (creating both the raw demographic replacement rate undermining and the skewed gender ratio). Addressing it to manage it (economically and...

Ramjet maturing will indeed be quite interesting to follow in Turkish defence industry.

In India case, we had multi-administrations that are culpable (from their end) so it ends up becoming less political in the larger context (everyone ends up sharing the blame). i.e everyone is a problem in tolerating bureaucratic BS and corruption in a number of projects (where raw need is less...

Seeing how it goes, I might just merge it with this thread: https://defencehub.live/threads/indian-general-rnd-acquisition-defence-industry-archive.2692/ Or do you have something specific in mind to this one? I just changed the title for now....to something shorter.

@Nein2.0(Nomad) , probably the largest exception (given scale of what mongols did to kievan rus) to what i was talking about just now:

Respective addenda to especially part 2 and part 3 of the polymatter series: Both channels are recommended in general if folks interested in the larger subjects. at hand. @AlphaMike @Mustafa27 @Kartal1 @Saiyan0321 @whatintarnation @Anmdt @xenon5434 @VCheng et al.

Cant wait to see how new TV series turns out (it will be covering the 2nd age). @xenon5434 @Sinan @Vag and I had some earlier convo about it.... this would be good thread to discuss more on it. @Isa Khan are you a LOTR fan? I'm going to ping @Saiyan0321 @Joe Shearer as well....for whenever...

Kind of thing @Kartal1 likes to keep tabs on.

It all needs proper management for the resource flow and handling w.r.t the raw demand in civil sector (that military can then leverage too). More people should leave IT sector and branch out to more manufacturing and services sectors in general.

I am writing a short article on it (on the deepest root cause)....might as well. Stay tuned.