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Then you exit. Everything has to have a cost otherwise they will shit on Turkey indefinitely. But they wont kick Turkey out, they kick Turkey out europe is done for and Isreals starts to fear that Turkey allies with Iran and Russia, steps back from Assad. Turkish people fail to understand the...

So lets say within the next month they join NATO, what do you do 3 months down the line when its clear they are still supporting terrorists against you? The Turkish grand national assembly will mean nothing and erdogan will claim again "I was deceived". Already this nonsense agreement shows you...

If americans wanted Turkey out of NATO no mechanisms would stop it. Legal agreements apply to the weak differently to how they apply to the strong.

and let me guess anyone who points out what a failure it is is demonised as secularist, or a CHP supporter or someone who hates Islam? Turkey may be done for. Eventually it moves into a theocratic dictatorship, it becomes so economically and socially weak that the outsider eventually breaks her up.

Ok, why not say they have to do all these things now and then show good behaviour for 2 years and we can come back and evaluate the application? There was no law that they needed to join immediately.

Yep you let in another 2 nations who are openly hostile to you. In NATO they will find it easier to harm Turkey then they did outside of it.

I'm sure they could have put a special clause in there. The EU puts special clauses in just to target Turkish membership in the organisation. Like every state gets to have an independent referendum on whether Turkey joins or not should they finally look to accept Turkey in. Personally the right...

I expected a mechanism that allows Turkey to pull the plug at any time on them should they revert course. tomorrow Russia attacks Finland and Turkey is expected to support her with her army, while the fins support terrorists against us? We must be a nation of muppets. Erdogan said we wont...

You wont get results from AK party, erdogan is just a poser he's no Ataturk.

Does ragip ever lay the blame at AK partys feet? He always posts about things that humiliates the Turks, but he never seems to blame AK party for it.

Don't buy into that crap their admittance will be quick and swift.

There is only really two explanations, either they are incompetent or they are treasonous, either option is bad bad news for Turkey. If they are incompetent you need them out of there, running a nation is no joke especially in Turkeys geography. If they are treasonous then your in big trouble...

It wont stop monetary or arms support, because their is no mechanism in place to stop it. They should have written this agreement on toilet paper then flushed down the nearest toilet. This level of incompetence is amazing. You could have taken any one of us on this forum and we wouldnt have...

You didn't have too, but you choose to dive in head first on the amercan side against assad. You should have thought about these things before going all in with the west. A west whose entire history is filled with duplicity and treachery, especially against non white Muslims. I thought about...

If i was a western nation i would shit on AK party too, they are a bunch of clowns who dont know what they are doing. Its another refugee deal all over again.

yep, another terribly wasted opportunity. Turkey gets screwed again by shite politics. But are we really shocked, these guys never been good at diplomacy or geopolitical strategy. They good at barking though and making the world hate Turks and Muslims even more then they already do, that they...

Is this another act of treason by AK party? How could they let sweden and finland in so easily?

What's the mechanism in place should they continue support the PKK against Turkey?

what's the mechanism in place if sweden and finland continue to support he pkk? What recourse does Turkey have? To me that agreement looks like nonsense. Part of the agreement should have been that Turkey unilaterally has the power to expel sweden and finland from NATO should they continue to...

There has been no significant diplomatic victories anywhere we look under 20 years of AK party rule. Next to nothing has been achieved or won via diplomacy. The best we get is they destroy relations, then once two nations start talking again they call it a result. Where the AK party clan/club...