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Lol, classic Erdo shenanigans. We got nothing on YPG other than Sweden and Finland ceasing monetary and arms support. Sweden and Finland cleverly won an extremely smart victory. They managed to separate YPG from PKK and accepted different concessions for "two different" entities. According to the two candidate countries, PKK is a terrorist organization YPG is not but since Turkiye is their "ally" now they won't actively support YPG(even though they don't see them as terrorists) as we have a beef with them. This doesn't mean they won't covertly support YPG. By signing this Turkiye also officially accepted that YPG is different from PKK(or those two countries see them differently and we are ok with it) which is an extremely bad outcome for us. Erdo is tricked again.
The next thing that will happen tomorrow is that the Turkish press will present this as a win while the Swedish press presents this as a loss to the average peasant to make the deal go smoothly.
The next thing that will happen tomorrow is that the Turkish press will present this as a win while the Swedish press presents this as a loss to the average peasant to make the deal go smoothly.
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once they got in.. they will show us their middle finger..
lets fall in the trap two times 3 times 10 times.. like always
if US Germany France and their clowns can support PKK do bombings inside Turkey than dont tell me everything will be good after they join.. they can promise much (yes dont tell me all the al qaida farts ended and Isis began to fart inside turkey becuase al qaida began to eat helal food and whoop no more gas ... its just a synonym for something else that happened)
I dont trust both and I dont think they would get better
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OK I see I was not wrong and its just worser than I thought.. we got betrayed again.. what a fart in our face and we now deeply inhale.. bütün senci köyü iyice götlerimizi xxxti..
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Number 4 and 5 how cunningly it is written. Even the devil himself would be amazed.
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if nanosoglu would have some dignity he would resign with the words he will not betray his country... but hey we are in turkey no one would do such a thing
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"We wuz trickedz" 2.0 pathetic. Another U turn, once in a lifetime chance gone. This is no different then joint patrols in Syria and promises to withdrawal.
Now we will go to Sweden and say "this organisation / charity in Stockholm is funding PKK" and Sweden will say "F U they are exercising freedoms according to our laws".
Now we will go to Sweden and say "this organisation / charity in Stockholm is funding PKK" and Sweden will say "F U they are exercising freedoms according to our laws".
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There has been no significant diplomatic victories anywhere we look under 20 years of AK party rule. Next to nothing has been achieved or won via diplomacy. The best we get is they destroy relations, then once two nations start talking again they call it a result.
Where the AK party clan/club has won has been in robbing the nation blind and filling the pockets of all her cronies. 40 million here 50 million there to build a new holiday home for erdogan, his supporters consider it good, because he works so hard to achieve constantly shite results.
Honestly if i wasn't Turkish i would be laughing at how stupid Turkey politically operates. Instead, despite living in England i keep getting annoyed and agitated seeing how foolishly the nation behaves.
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what's the mechanism in place if sweden and finland continue to support he pkk? What recourse does Turkey have? To me that agreement looks like nonsense. Part of the agreement should have been that Turkey unilaterally has the power to expel sweden and finland from NATO should they continue to support the PKK.
Honeslty what kind of agreement is that? Its written in such a way that if sweden decides to call the PKK the Middle east democratic forces, everything in it becomes null and void.
So they will get entry into NATO, and once then if they continue to support the PKK there is nothing Turkey can do about it.
Honeslty what kind of agreement is that? Its written in such a way that if sweden decides to call the PKK the Middle east democratic forces, everything in it becomes null and void.
So they will get entry into NATO, and once then if they continue to support the PKK there is nothing Turkey can do about it.
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What's the mechanism in place should they continue support the PKK against Turkey?
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the whole declaration is written exceptionally vague, and it empowers both sides. Turkiye can deadass request troops to fight in Syria tomorrow and they couldnt refuse. it is THAT vague.
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It's nothing but some empty promise. No guarantees, no nothing. Now the Russian will likely intervene in Syria as revenge and safe them like they did in the last Operations, seriously that was our best card yet they gave it away that easilly, same with the refugee agreement.
We were fooled part 31.. loading.
We were fooled part 31.. loading.
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yep, another terribly wasted opportunity. Turkey gets screwed again by shite politics. But are we really shocked, these guys never been good at diplomacy or geopolitical strategy.
They good at barking though and making the world hate Turks and Muslims even more then they already do, that they are exceptionally good at.
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when i look at this now it seems he got extremly fooled or was forced to accept them ?! which guarantee there is that they will abide by that mou? these countries shit on u and laugh at u while they support the pkk, to expect them to do a 360 is pure naivety 
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when i look at this now it seems he got extremly fooled or was forced to accept them ?! which guarantee there is that they will abide by that mou? these countries shit on u and laugh at u while they support the pkk, to expect them to do a 360 is pure naivety
If i was a western nation i would shit on AK party too, they are a bunch of clowns who dont know what they are doing. Its another refugee deal all over again.
