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  1. Nutuk

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    No I do not think so. Blk 0 is a demonstrator, same like Baykar uses the kizilelma demonstrator prototype. Landing gears on demonstrators are not the main point and are often fixed, to avoid accidents on that part. The Blk 10 will become the first production ready prototype
  2. Nutuk

    TR Air-Force TF-X KAAN Fighter Jet

    When planes are put next together one suddenly recognizes the differences. TFx blk 0 has apparently no retractable aft wheels (we saw this also with drone prototypes)
  3. Nutuk

    TR Military Operations in Northern Iraq

    interesting, at the 3rd second something like a flare is exploding . It looks indeed like a helicopter used for special operations if it carries flares
  4. Nutuk

    TR Attack & Utility Helicopter Programs

    Most likely not, the hangar rollout was postponed to April
  5. Nutuk

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    Turkish people are really strange when it comes to politics. Most of us are as fanatic as if they support their football team. Whenever I like something, or praise for instance our defense industry there comes a dude and accuses me of being a covert AKP supporter. When I make remarks about how...
  6. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Well you know the EF is not only dealing with England, just saying.
  7. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    True, but we could make it more up to date with Turkish avionics, radar etc. I mean as thought we should be open for this. US kicked us out of the F35 program, is everything but clear on the sale of F16. I did not make a study out of it and am just dropping the idea of JF-17 as discussion...
  8. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Guys something else, suppose the US declines F16 sale how do you guys regard the Pakistani JF17? A "Turkified" version of JF-17, with Aselsan radar, Aselpod, Ozgur mission computer, avionics, communications, self protection system and of course Turkish missiles and bombs? Kinda like empty...
  9. Nutuk

    TR Politics

    Yeah but there is difference between wanting and openly revolting with fire weapons. The moment you revolt with weapons against the state you are terrorist!!!
  10. Nutuk

    TR Politics

    Politics in Turkiye have become soo ugly. Parties don't even shy away from straight treasonous acts for votes, simply sad!
  11. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Even if only the block 30's than still there is no satisfactory reason given by SSB why all these delay occurs. Even upgrade of blk 30 will take 1-2 years, why it is taking this long to start Ozgur integration is beyond me
  12. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Catching up with technology is easier. Not that we can be frontrunners in tech (also this is economy and population mass related), but todays interconnection, internet, international education possibilities makes catching up with technology easier.
  13. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Catcing up with US or China is out of question. China is 1.5bln people US is 52 states (each richer than Turkiye) with 350mln people There is no way that we can catch up with our current economy. We ain't trying to match up with US or China, we try to be the dominating power in our neighborhood
  14. Nutuk

    TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

    Non of them are a match for Turkiye. We should stop thinking in short terms with stopgaps. Put full power into development of Hurjet, Kizilelma, ANKA-3, TFx, this is the way! I don't really get why the Ozgur upgrade is this much delayed, money should be poured into this instead of chasing the...
  15. Nutuk

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    The relation is we rather get ourselves occupied with unimportant futile things, get ourselves detached from realities
  16. Nutuk

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    45k deaths from earthquakes and look where we Turks make fuss about. We really deserve it all
  17. Nutuk

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    That is typical in developing countries like Turkiye. Status, high farts. I worked in companies like Erikson, where the CEO washed his own cups. So what, does it make him less? IMHO he got a lot more respect because he was not a guy full of air
  18. Nutuk

    TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

    What a BS things we are keeping ourselves busy with. What does it matter if the guy is a general or not, he is there amongst friends and collogues and cleans the table of some cups as gesture. Only in Turkiye we make a cloud from a fart
  19. Nutuk

    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    As I see our LHD will mostly be of service around Africa (Libya, Somalia etc.). And in such equipped with TB-3, Kizilelma, Hurkus II and perhaps at later stadium a variant of Hurjet ain't that bad at all I recon too. Our TCG Anadolu has potential to become an interesting ship
  20. Nutuk

    TR F-16 Özgür | Hürkuş - Fighter Trainer Aircraft Projects

    Personally I have never thought of Hurkus on the LHD. It is not a doubt, but surprise. Having a turboprop plane from an LHD sounds a bit weird, it's like a giant step back to WW2

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