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We are so tight-lipped we won't tell anyone even if we knew.

Current production capacity is 6-9 Kaan copies and 24 to be added totaling 30-33 per year, tweeted today.

Minister Güler: “We have produced six GÜÇHAN turbofan engines.” This may only mean they have made 6 builds. Remember Mr. Mahmut Akşit mentioned that they probably need to make 15 builds before they are done with developing the TF35k engine. So they probably got to like 40% of the way to a...

It is unbelievable there is development work outside the oversight of SSB as they are the body that plans and budgets development work and finances them. No wonder even Eray Güçlüer couldn't comment on MSB Arge's work and was like shocked.

Undecided, it is like a 10% chance that they have nailed major aspects of the engine and need to work on some other aspects. Even if they are on the right path it can take decades more for something to come out as they don't have the required credentials for a capable design house and production...

Probably for stuff that will go into the European market. If MSB Arge could pull off a larger engine why not Baykar make its own.

MSB Arge is swinging the reputation of the Turkish defence industry between shame and fame, wonder where it lands at the end

Kaan league is shaping up

As much as I want to have a second promising maker working on some critical national projects I don't want to hear the lbf abbreviation be pronounced as libre feet as the MSB Arge manager did in an NTV interview.

There was only the MOD himself in the MSB Arge presentations as a politician and himself is the previous Chief of Staff an old school officer from the olden times. And all he does as a political message is to place flashy Atatürk signatures on their display objects which is not very welcome...

The bigger the missile the more the speed but you can have more of the smaller missiles to shoot as they are small and easier to handle and all, you need variety.

Obviously they will make the TF35k engine quicker rather than slower.

Upgrading existing systems to ballistic capability is a shortcut that can save time and provide earlier ballistic coverage, thankfully.

I am pretty sure there are several dozen engines in stock already and they can do a certain job with them. Future versions can have different engines. Users do not really have alternatives to Kızılelma so it is like a sure bet to acquire Kızılelma with Ukrainian engine.

Making bigger claims than what is actually being delievered do not create any additional political gains. Who cares if you can hit at 6000 km range when all your opponents are within 3000 km range.

Curious if deliveries of Kızılelma to Indonesia will happen before deliveries to TSK.

Kaan APU starter engine, while this is made for fighter jets you can possibly repurpose it to power a flying car for two.

Seems to me that MSB Arge is a project of the current MOD and it punches above its head and mostly gives political messages. MOD said "There won't be hesitation to use these weapons". While it is also a technical matter as the weapons are not of the dirty type hence they can be used more freely...

Yes for manufacturing but no for R&D.

We can make the TF35k engine with better quality in that same time-frame.