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Thanks but None of these examples have anywhere near comparable geography and therefore lopsided consequences for the party in Turkeys position.

Can you please list those other cases you say are like the Aegean?

Vag... 🤔

Hamdi makes crap yogurt. I’m glad it’s called Greek.

And goatsmilk goes bang!

6700 Tonne Italian Andria Doria Destroyer: USD 730M (EU 590M) - USD 108K / Tonne 3500 Tonne USS Freedom LCS: USD 360M - USD 102 / Tonne 2400 Tonne TCG Heybeliada Corvette: USD 260M - USD 108K / Tonne

The PPP data looks good though... :)

I do know. This was not about build capacity more about ambitions and vision.

We have Russia bro...

Prefer money goes to carrier(s) instead of more palaces. They’ll find the billions and spend it on something irrespective. Meanwhile, Tf2000 pls hurry up! The Italians and Koreans should not have better equipped navies than us!

I didn’t hear any mention of tf2000... :(

My condolences.

Speed test on my iPhone: 5G mobile network - 322/53, ping 20 WiFi from home NBN - 53/18, ping 6 Both with Telstra.

We got the fastest available NBN plan through Telstra for my CBD office as soon as they rolled it out there and the speeds were as promised. These days it’s 1/3. High speed internet in Australia is a joke.

Germany has the Nazi war machine to thank for where it is today. The know how passed down from that era (and the other lessons learnt) is priceless and the Americans and Russians can vouch for that so take it easy with the Turkey comparisons. But, I agree that Tayyip splurging on opulent palaces...

So what’s the goss on why Berat left? I’m a bit behind on that subject.

Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok - such make-ity-up-ity homogeneity... 🙄 nothing but a ⛪️ club. Safety and bullying in numbers.

If it’s hateful the mods can delete it.

I’m spewing hateful comments am I? Where?

Yes this whole Tayyip is the leader of the radical islamists who threaten to bring an apocalypse upon all non-Muslims if the west doesn’t prop up the unshaven she-Kurds of north Syria is getting boring and tiring. Lefties and Rightwing, Ruskies and Yanks - they are all the same pile of excrement...