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There are some very valuable informations in this thread but seriously the toxicity in some posts really hurt my eyes. Can we lay off toxicity please?

You deserve to be manipulated and lied. After 20 years of manipulation and being lied to by the most immoral government world history ever witnessed and when even the damn logo turns out to be a rip off, how can you still blindly believe this ''project'' isnt just another Akp's false hopes to...

Identical? It is the same shit but turqoise!!!

Even the logo is stolen. https://www.aykiri.com.tr/yerli-otomobil-togg-un-logosu-alinti-mi-togg-ile-faces-in-logosu-ayni-cikti/17612/ They make up a lie for votes but they dont even care enough/have creativity to at least make a logo. How can they expect people to believe them when they are...

If you mean his family and beşli çete by ''his people'' perhaps you are right. Erdogan has been the greatest catastrophe in Turkic history. He brought an irreversible damage and degeneration to our nation, so much so that it is not even a nation but a group of people at this point. Just like...

You cant differ settlers from others after 50 years. It is impossible. Based on what data will you do that anyway? South Cyprus hasnt been ruling there for 50 years. You need to face some realities. Settlers are an indisputable fact of North Cyprus now, drink a glass of water over it. That...

@Akritas I want to ask you a serious question. Many analysts in Turkey think that people around us; namely Greeks and Armenians... they see USA as "THE" state. Like they have so immense political power that even in such an isolated place like Caucasus or whatever, USA always says the final...

Well, thanks for revealing it yourself that you are a traitor of the country.

That is what Shah Muhammed of Khwarezmia said when he splitted his army to various cities. Little did he know, Genghis enriched his army with Chinese engineers after his campaign to Xia.

Mongols were a different breed... They had the most original ideas in sieges such as using infected animal corpses in trebutchets to start epidemics within a city, changing the riverbed and directing a flood, stacking woods to burn under fortifications that are hard to capture, abondoning the...

We need some moderator action here. Can we please stop arguing like youtube comments at least in here? Or a different thread to talk about historical stuff?

What are they selling?

We dont need to play the fool at least in here. Greece is taking advantage of Turkey falling off with USA and Israel due to her middle east policies.

Nothing new under the sky I see. Turkey has solved Cyprus problem unilaterally in 1978.

French public opinion looks very upset with their government on their Libyan policy. To me, it looked like France tries to make its people forget about Libya.

1- Without any convincing evidence? https://images.app.goo.gl/wkdhGE5gPGZ1bhD76 (he says ''we will build statues of Apo(Abdullah Ocalan)'' 2- Erdogan even initiated ''peace process'' with PKK. Prior, Turkey even sat down with PKK in Oslo. PKK used this entire opportunity to stack more...

Fuck, we should prevent that happening.

They need to make original designs. We have literally zero original design in small arms, all copy. Edit: I am not talking about Kale Kalips weapons above. I was rather talking about our sidearms and smgs that we import to USA.

There doesnt have to be. A convoy is enough to deter us from attacking, heck I am actually thinking, maybe even diplomatical intimidation is enough. Unfortunately we dont have the balls we used to have. Thats partly due to the guy on top having a Democles sword hanging over his neck aka Halkbank...

Well, dunno about others but Erdogan is clearly losing.