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My own personal opinion is that only nations that can produce most critical hardware themselves should be considered strong. The rest are venerable to politics. We seen this playout many times against Turkey in the past.

selling to serbia is foolish. How often do we find serb weapons in the hands of the PKK?

Only time euro peoples have any moral right to point fingers at the Turks is when they return north and south america to the natives, return africa to the africans, return Australia, and new zealand back to the natives if they still exist and for Russia to return her asian territories. Once all...

Because we all know if it comes to apologising for crimes of the past, europeans are going to be doing the most apologising. Something btw that euro origin peoples try to force on non white people. This map is not 100% accurate but it gives you the truth behind euro hate of Turks. Unable to...

I suppose a big problem with France is that its still an empire that operates via occupation and subjugation. The relentless theft of Africa continues unabated. When you look at the past 300 years european imperialism, global genocide and theft needs to be looked into. We know euro peoples...

USA built on genocide. Russia endless list of genocides, including the soviets murdering 90 million people. France literally a slaver state till to this very day. Armenians slaughtered hundreds of thousands of muslims in the hopes of creating greater armenia. The moral of the story is only...

What is the CEP of it? Or is it just meant to carry nukes? Also any idea how much something like this costs to produce?

Slapping Wagner around was the best thing about that conflict. Wherever you find russians you only find trouble.

China has the massive advantage that they can copy and steal tech without consequence too. This theft has been pretty much the basis of their domestic military industry. As for Turkey, if AK party cronies get their hands on this project it will fail the way Altay tank has failed. Also while...

Because the Chinese believe the west is bad, does not make me think that china is good. We have a communist dictatorship engaged in ethnic cleansing, a million Muslims placed in concentration camps. The truth is in terms of human rights and dignity china is far worse then the west. Where the...

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obviously it was a big loss for the gulf states and their lackeys like sisi. All that money, all that military hardware and in the end they had to capitulate against a tiny nothing state like Qatar.

The rational thing for Turkey is to go nuclear. Then she can be done with the east/west divide and chart her own course.

yeah you stated your opinion, but its wrong to claim that Russia poses no threat to Europe whatsoever. For example Russia knows EU expansionism and NATO is a threat, so both sides are working to undermine and challenge the others sovereignty. No one said Turkey can keep Russia out of Europe nor...

Ask the Polish if they agree with you, meanwhile poland is bigger and stronger then most eastern euro or balkan states. Lets also add that Russia has thousands of nukes aimed at every capital in europe.

This is where the chinese have a point, the european is filled with arrogance and hypocrisy. Turkey only brought s400 because you guys are arming separatist communist terrorists along her border. Keep ignoring it, because Russia annexing much of eastern europe and the balkans is very real...

Not for Turkey, for europe. Then europeans will get to enjoy the red terror again and we know most europeans capitulate in absolute fear when the Russians come knocking. We already saw the european reaction to ukraine, basically bent over and said take me.

Unfortunately it will hit a point where if america doesn't sell planes Turkey will end up looking east. If Turkey looks east for critical weapons, naturally her support of western interests will further diminish while giving the east a great advantage. A country like Turkey at the centre of 3...

s400 was brought to pressure the americans to stop supporting the pkk/ypg. Not only did it have no effect in influencing the US, it brought no influence with Russia as was seen when they killed the Turkish droops make in February last year. Now AK party not anticipating that s400 could have...