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At the end of the day affordability was always the deciding factor . You could branding your goods with whatever stickers and slogan you want . But if the masses couldn't buy it ( which in turn established it ) you are blowing nothing but a hot air

Politically axed to be precise...

Well , i'm kinda late into the party .... Can anyone explain what goktug project is ??

Bro , by the time all the promised equipment were to arrived . i highly doubt if there is any productive ukrainian left to operate those " fancy toys " .... Ukraine simply couldn't absorb such a horrendeus losses ... No matter what the arm chair general and investor are saying ...

They were on tight schedule . Thwy have to provide some tangible result or else all of the " Investor " would start to " cutting losses ... My deep condolences upon all the ukranian grunts . Because they were the one has their bloods and lives get pawned upon

Keyword = synergy ... Not to mention bandung was allready too crowded and transparent

Emang simplikasi .... Di saat rilis produk di tunda .. maka semua akan ada dampak turunannya . Dr harga yg naik di pasar lokal , ga ada pemasukan negara hingga yg lain2 .. Semua orang di lapangan jg tahu kl sebagian besar lahan itu hanya titip nama ... Namun yg paling terpukul adalah rakyat...

Petani ( bukan buyer !! ) Sawit kita yg menjerit karena oversupply di lokalan ... 🙄🙄

In other words ...it's a stalemate then ??

How about their paid but hasn't ( and it will never !! ) Received F 35 ?? Do you perhaps have a better " suggestion n solution " for the good' ole of USA ?? Well , considering things between " allies " ... Things shouldn't that difficult to negotiate no ... ?? I mean not to be sarcastic here...

There is always 2 side of a coin . Only time will tell the truth ... ☕☕☕

Karena produk mereka blm ada yg sepadan . Jika ada yg sepadan maka otomatis pilihan pertama barang turkey ... Tp secara gradual pergeseran itu ada . Dan kita bicara ttg hitungan dekade bukan tahun .

Ada substitusi yg sepadan dr turkey ga ?? Perlahan kita mulai bergeser lho ... Standar eropa yg aslinya kita inginkan bukan barang dan negaranya....

Ehm ... Ehm ... Which continent the turkey is .. uhk .. uhuk .. ☕☕

Well , laid it down the counter sources information then ... I'm all ear here . The bear are fucked up .that's obvious . But , how about the ukranians ?? How many bodies and equipment ( they haven't paid for !! ) they would sacrificed for tilting and tending those minefields ??? Nobody from the...

I hate to piss on everyone's parade .but we desperately need some counter balance source for the information on the ground .... Can anyone refuted this guy ??

Just out of curiosity .... Who's going to pay the bills ?? My head still can't wrap around it on how the west could finance the whole bussiness without serious dent in their day to day economy ... ☕☕

The only sensible , realistic and readily available choice in their complete environment was only that .. Regarding financial scheme and whatnot ....that was bonus .

In ideal world your wish might be happened. . but wars is always about perception , diversion and deceipt ... Not too mention in today fulll EW spectrum warfares . Who are to say .... That our future adversary couldn't masking their cheap ass home grown rockets that could look and read/treated...

Well , if you were that confident . kudos to you then . ☕☕