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Pastinya kita bakal babak belur kalau perang dagang dengan EU karena kita cuman sendiri sementara mereka ada banyak anggota, tetapi kita tidak boleh tunduk dengan mudah.

Enaknya punya blok politik+ekonomi jadi lebih bertaji dalam kancah geopolitik, sayang untuk ASEAN belum mencapai tingkat itu belum lagi kadang masih ada saja member yang rada sableng.
 

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Dengan Perancis yg lagi usaha dekatin kita, bisa gak kita minta tolong mereka buat vote untungin kita?
 

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Our neighbor ditawarin S-80+
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Dengan Perancis yg lagi usaha dekatin kita, bisa gak kita minta tolong mereka buat vote untungin kita?

European Union is basically marriage between France and Germany, with other as their children born within marriage or wedlock child

Thats why oldman British choose to exit from such dreadfull house. And prefer to leaning more with their rebellious and independen son, the US.


If we are prepared for trade war and bickering tit for tat we should be ready to fight against the biggest two member of them. You should knowing better, when people are talking about money, they even don't acknowledge brother or sister, let alone a friend.
 

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European Union is basically marriage between France and Germany, with other as their children born within marriage or wedlock child

Thats why oldman British choose to exit from such dreadfull house. And prefer to leaning more with their rebellious and independen son, the US.


If we are prepared for trade war and bickering tit for tat we should be ready to fight against the biggest two member of them. You should knowing better, when people are talking about money, they even don't acknowledge brother or sister, let alone a friend.
Jadi?
Ancam gak jadi nambah Rafale?
 

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Kalau MRCA tanpa nama itu beneran jatuh ke Typhoon dan kita beneran jadi operator Rafale dan EF, bukankah itu bisa jadi kartu kita dalam nego dengan EU ?

Atau nilainya masih kecil dibandingkan nikel ?
 

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Kalau MRCA tanpa nama itu beneran jatuh ke Typhoon dan kita beneran jadi operator Rafale dan EF, bukankah itu bisa jadi kartu kita dalam nego dengan EU ?
Wah, Typhoon muncul lagi, mungkin hasil kerja yang ngelobi Austria...
 

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Not EU, and Still huge even if Turkiye unincluded.
- rafale
- Leo 2
- mirage
- scorpene / u214
- Fremm
- AH140 (although with some Turkiye systems, but still...)
- exocet
- Sigma frigate
- caesar 155
- LG1
- etc etc

Ada substitusi yg sepadan dr turkey ga ?? Perlahan kita mulai bergeser lho ...
Standar eropa yg aslinya kita inginkan bukan barang dan negaranya....
 

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Nggak.
Turkiye belum bisa dijadikan sebagai pengganti Eropa.
Karena produk mereka blm ada yg sepadan . Jika ada yg sepadan maka otomatis pilihan pertama barang turkey ...
Tp secara gradual pergeseran itu ada . Dan kita bicara ttg hitungan dekade bukan tahun .
 

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Oh Ganjar, please make him your MoD instead of her 🙏
Military officers in our country has a high ego and are jealous of each other. In every generation and also between generations and branches, there's always constant feeling of rivalry. This is what happen when politics and personal interest becomes the priority in the mind of our officers, instead of total dedication and focus towards military duty.
 

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