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Please continue debate here about Chinese war history (that went OT in original thread) @#comcom @Jackdaws @whatintarnation @xizhimen et al. The OP thread title can may be changed to "Chinese war history" etc if you could do the honours @Webslave

You are welcome to open up a thread later on it for that debate if you want. To receive a proper attitude you should first display it yourself. It's really not that hard.

Where did I call you anything? I have clearly stated my grievance is with the CCP specifically and succinctly. Please if you are not capable of understanding this difference, its waste of time to continue. Calling entire countries cowardly and weak or any disparaging term is banned on this...

Like I said, when you prove you are less of a waste of time, I will engage more then. Till then acting like a duck, gets called a duck. I could be wrong, I could be joking or some combination of both...who is to tell? But if you find that applicable to you seriously (this huge trend thats...

Thing is: A) how much tonnage do military ships make as % of total marine tonnage? B) how much value do warships make as % of total shipping sector? If we have these ratios, I think it will be apt to see military base is not 1:1 to larger commercial base.

Again it is really not my fault if you cannot comprehend the difference between a political party (which is fair game to criticize and attack especially regarding specific evil actions) and an entire country. If you call an entire country "cowardly" and "weak", what are we supposed to make of...

It just takes 50 cents to type "but no they dont have this base cuz i sez so". No higher thinking or argument needed. It is frankly a waste of time right now (IMO). Hopefully dozens more arrive once this one declares the water is warm enough....so they make it worth my while.

Please do not lie. It is still quoted there for all to see.

It's not my fault you cannot see the difference between labelling a political party and labelling an entire country (like you did). CCP are degenerate despicable trash. They are certainly not China...they just think they are. Big difference.

Welcome to totalitarian nightmare... CCP are degenerate trash. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/12/4/holduighurs-forced-to-eat-pork-as-hog-farming-in-xinjiang-expands It has been more than two years since Sayragul Sautbay was released from a re-education camp in China’s westernmost region...

Good to see you back @Philip the Arab , hope you drop by more when you can.

Lot of anonymous keyboard warriors don't even know the first thing about a perisher course for example. They don't understand that men, institutions and experience dictate a huge deal past the hardware numbers and glossy brochures.

Again this doesnt include the immense service trade that EU and US do with each other compared to China.

It obviously doesn't include the large service trade India does with US that puts the total trade ahead lot more than with China....since China is not really market for it.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/12/japans-mod-may-build-additional-aegis-destroyers-as-aegis-ashore-alternative/ According to multiple Japanese media reports, the Japanese government is considering to build additional Aegis destroyers for the JMSDF as an alternative solution to Aegis...

Launch on the 14th December 2020.... 1st of my namesake (2nd time in IN though) frigate to be launched (at GRSE)...

Well in addition to Pakistanis, we have seen Afghans (esp after soviet afghan war ended), Arabs and even Chechens arrive to engage in terrorism on Indian soil...and given their one way ticket to soil fertilisation. They aren't really mercenaries, they don't get paid per se....its just about who...

Friend, we have had this convo a number of times I think now :P I mean why is there any change in the world at all over time? People come to power, entrench and solidify for their advantage.....thinking and projecting they are some complete absolute....but they are wrong...and end up being...

Yeah, here's the earlier class: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandhayak-class_survey_ship The new class will be considerably larger and more capable.