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  1. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Nobody said anything about a ship getting stronger after being hit. That said, war planners use computer models to predict outcome of naval conflicts. The equations include number of missiles, effectivity, defences, anti-defences, missile magazine capacity, detection and evasion from detection...
  2. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Very nice job by Roketsan. Now that a small jet engine is not wasted in a single scenario and a big family of munitions can be developed. 150 km range is near the edge of UAV optical sensor to detect and identify a corvette sized vessel in good weather so it can be used by UAVs effectively in...
  3. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    I already told I do not mean lucky shots... optimistic model: 100 kg bomb hits over waterline. Ship disabled, battle stops, war ends with victory. real life: 100 kg bomb hits over waterline. Enemy surprised by attack but able to recover. Enemy ship continues to fire Harpoon salvos and relay...
  4. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    No no, I don’t mean or want lucky shots. We (navy) must think of statistics before engagement so the more numerous smart and longer range missiles the better. something like an Atmaca/Harpoon per 50 meters length or 1000 tons.
  5. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    I think a frigate sized target needs at least 2-3 Atmaca to sink. To penetrate air defense maybe 10 Atmacas are needed. We can combine OMGSF or derivative with Atmaca and strike with maybe 30 missiles to overwhelm the target. I think about Aegis-like ability targets with CIWS sailing with their...
  6. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    TEI manager Akşit once told there was a diameter requirement and they had to develop TJ300 at this diameter. So I understood that Navy only wants a medium range antiship missile but with this crazy requirement they created something more than they wanted and they are not aware of the potential…...
  7. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    What does the navy think about OMGFS? I think it’s more groundbreaking and dangerous than Atmaca. Given enough fuel it may reach Atmaca ranges and can be hosted by smaller platforms, may be launched en masse from VLS & airborne & land& small vessels … the engine can power other types of missiles...
  8. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    Slightly changed booster model with bigger wings for Atmaca on one of the pics. I don’t know if just a model or whether it was displayed before. (Edit: or just camera perspective?) Edit:
  9. dustdevil

    TR Missile & Smart Munition Programs

    https://tr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayağı_çakır_kuşu Kara Atmaca? (Hope it is a new one though)
  10. dustdevil

    TR Navy Conceptual & Technology-Demonstration Designs

    Ah I understand now what those side lines are for. In the CG version they looked like unnecessary parts.
  11. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    I wanted to check distances but I could not find enough time but according to flightradar track TB2 flew around 6000 ft and minimum range for the Çanakkale Şehit Abidesi is 20-25km. I feel like we need one more generation to catch MX-15 and 2 generations for MX-25. There is a constant blur I...
  12. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Nice! Image search from flight sim screen also provided this paper: https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.159.4508&rep=rep1&type=pdf This paper has some info on the type and tells why is selected for that particular research so might have influenced the same way…Looks like...
  13. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Baykar Mini UAV first version was also a twin boom inverted V tail design. As far as I remember there were other inverted V tail UAV/RC aircraft examples back then in USA universities but I can’t find them since more than ~15 years have passed. Probably they were influenced either by one of them...
  14. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regiment_March
  15. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    I thought the same too but could not decide: - the camera movement and camera angles are a bit strange like the previous TB2 CATS video. (Servo response to user inputs, stabilization quality and target selection may affect this behavior) - there is a periodic judder similar to TB2 CATS footage...
  16. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Most logical and I agree. However just to play devil’s advocate imagine a flat perfect plate at some degree that reflects most of the energy away from the radiator versus a similar plate at the same angle with a different material that slightly leaks energy and has a big irregular reflector...
  17. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Depends on the composite type. If it’s radar transparent the internal parts will reflect the energy.
  18. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Interesting. In the twitter thread he told he used something called “perfect electric conductor” for the surface. I think it means something like a metal surface. With composite body it would be different though, worse or better…
  19. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    Are you the same person who did the study? If no, how could you calculate this? I wonder how TB2 antennas, landing gear etc come into play. Also how they hide the engine and optics. Without knowing about skin properties how it can be calculated etc… My prediction is: its RCS is not much, like...
  20. dustdevil

    TR UAV/UCAV Programs | Anka - series | Kızılelma | TB - series

    I hope your source is not from a C:MO scenario. I have seen somebody tweeting it and everybody thought it was a radar simulation. The RCS for TB-2 in the software is defined at F-22 level, also it is a tactical game, not a radar simulator. Later in the replies the developer admits they estimate...

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