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The Istif-class is a true milestone that has proven the maturity of the Turkish naval industry. However, if we want to become a true and fully independent blue-water navy, instead of simply extending the current design to create the Istif Batch-II after completing the production of eight units...

The ability to build 8-9 frigates at the same time is really huge capacity. While the private sector is still experiencing as much expansion as possible, in parallel, Izmir and Gölcük shipyards are again reaching the ability to build surface combatant/patrol corvettes/frigates. Although there is...

Procurement cost comparisons in this space tend to conflate package values with airframe prices. Full programme figures routinely bundle simulators, initial spare parts pools, training pipelines and multi-year support contracts, making raw per-unit extrapolations misleading. The cleaner...

Submarine or aircraft carrier? Both MUGEM and MILDEN are progressing very concretely in their respective fields, and by the mid-2030s these ships will be strategic elements of the navy. I think we passed this part of the debate years ago. Political will and Staff planning gave the answer as...

The contract for 2+6 National Coast Guard vessels was signed in July 2025, with the first vessel planned for delivery in 26 months. This means delivery in 2027, commissioning in 2028, and delivery of the second vessel in 2028. The construction of the 6 vessels under option is expected to be...

The news that the Turkish Naval Forces will proceed with hulls three and four of the Bayraktar class is genuinely good, What I want to raise is a design question that becomes more relevant with each new hull: why are these new hulls still going to sea without a hangar? The existing pair, TCG...

One of the most underappreciated aspects of the TF6000 program is not the engine itself. Aerospace engine history shows that the most strategically valuable aero engines aren't necessarily the most powerful ones. They're the ones flexible enough to spawn entire families. GE's TF34, originally...

The HAVA-SOJ project essentially encompasses a comprehensive suite of heavy structural engineering, including generator system modifications, APU overhauls, cooling infrastructure upgrades, fuselage-surface structural work involving canopies and fairings, sensor modification and integration...

AESA Radar Systems — Technical Comparison A side-by-side comparison of six contemporary AESA radar systems across key engineering parameters. This table focuses strictly on structural advantages and constraints derived from physics, material science, and platform geometry — not tactical...

The Romania branch of Damen only builds 'Empty Hull'. Yes, Damen Galati in Romania is contracted to build the raw steel hulls of the ASW frigates. And Romania's labor costs are indeed lower comparing to Netherlands. However, an empty steel hull is only about 20-25% of a modern frigate's total...

Belgian Defense Minister Theo Francken's recent visit to the Sedef Shipyard in Istanbul and his statement that "Turkiye is rising as a quiet force in military maritime" is not simply a diplomatic courtesy visit. Behind it lies a massive logistical and financial crisis shaking the European...

Part 3 - HÜRJET-X on Land: The Case for a Single-Platform, Dual-Role Fighter 1. One Aircraft, Two Missions The previous posts in this thread examined HÜRJET-X as a naval fighter for MUGEM. But a question that kept coming up in the background was whether the same aircraft, or something very...

Ethiopia had a long-term agreement for up to 12 AKINCI drones, and according to reliable sources, they actively possess at least 3. The agreement with the UAE was much more comprehensive and larger. Frankly, I believe the UAE may have significantly more AKINCI drones than Ethiopia. The AKINCI...

Secondary topics for this thread: Part - 2 MUGEM 2032-2036 :Air Wing Composition, Capacity, and the Three-Layer Force With the platforms and their propulsion established, the practical question is how many of them fit on a 60,000-tonne carrier and how they come together operationally. MUGEM's...

Secondary topics for this thread: Part 1 - Common Core, TF6000 Engine Family Across MUGEM's Jet Platforms One dimension of the MUGEM air wing discussion that deserves separate attention is propulsion logistics. Carrier aviation is as much a maintenance and supply chain problem as it is a...

You are right on the compressor stages. The article referenced additional stages as a potential avenue for thrust growth, but in fairness it did not account for the engineering costs that come with it: increased aerodynamic losses, added weight, and greater mechanical complexity. These factors...

A note on revisions: Parts 3, 4, 8, 9, and 10 have been updated based on feedback from this thread. The most significant change is in the propulsion section. The original article proposed scaling the TF6000 core and reducing its bypass ratio to produce a higher-thrust derivative. Dear Yasar_TR...

You are right, and I should correct my earlier comparisn. F404 to F414 thrust increase was not achieved purely through internal redesign within an identical envelope. The fan grew from roughly 27 inches to around 30 to 32 inches, which is the primary driver of the increased airflow and...

Scaling down KAAN sounds intuitive but runs into hard physical constraints that do not scale. The internal weapons bay must fit real missiles with fixed dimensions, you cannot shrink a bay below the length and diameter of a BVR weapon. The cockpit does not scale either, the human inside is a...

Üstad, you raise a fair point as always, and on reflection, the TF6000/10000 as officially planned by TEI, delivering 10,000 lbf with afterburner, may in fact be sufficient for the baseline configuration without core scaling. Two TF10000s deliver 20,000 lbf combined, which at a managed combat...