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  1. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Just want to clarify. Actually it is not the same as the case of crimean annexation. Crimea belong to crimean legally. Israel established on nobody land (ex British Mandate that UK has left), and declare independence based on UN Partition Plan. Israel grab west bank from Jordan, while Jordan...
  2. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    This is territorial dispute indeed; but the justification could be approached by 2 ways: heritage, and current law. Claim that current Israel people is not descended from true/ancient Israel was derived from the debunked "khazaria speculation" which has been proven wrong by genetical evidence...
  3. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    This is the map of Palestine Region (Region used to be under British Mandate), before 1967: The "green area" was the area of Palestine region (ex British Mandate) that Jordania annexed illegally. The "black area" was the area of Palestine region (ex British Mandate) that Egypt annexed...
  4. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    6 day war was initiated by Arab nations, in order to get rid/eliminate Israel from map. 1967 border was based on UN Partition Plan, the plan which was denied by Arab nations. While arabic Palestine has already been given a land in Gaza strip, and already become independent. So the question is...
  5. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Do you know that all of the land that Israel grabbed - except Sinai & southern Lebanon - are the land under the "British Mandate on Palestine" where the UN's Partition Plan as a solution for the distribution of the ex British Mandate land which gave some area for "Arab State" were rejected by...
  6. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    If independence means they can pass into Israel territory and can attack Israel citizen, then it is a "missunderstood independence". Before the wall, there are many suicide bombers attack and intifada attack to Israel citizen.
  7. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Good share from Sheik Jabar: SHEIKH JARRAH : AWAL KONFLIK ISRAEL - HAMAS TAHUN 2021. Oleh : Agoes Ibrahim Sebelum saya membahas tentang ribut-ribut antara Hamas vs Israel, kita harus paham terlebih dahulu tentang wilayah Palestina.. Negara Palestina ( meskipun Israel dan PBB belum...
  8. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Where do you learn history? it is all false information. Palestine originally is a name of region (not a nation), the names used by ancient Greek writer. The people of Palestine (region) used to be Israel/Jews, and since Israel & Judea stopped as a nation/kingdom in 2 century AD after Bar...
  9. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Well, it depends on how you see the issue. For him and some many others, what Duterte is doing is for the sake of Philliphine's interest.
  10. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Ena e ... yang ada juga situ ikutan nyawer!
  11. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Perkosya numpang liwet :( :D
  12. Perkosya_QT

    Casual Discussion Introduction

    Many thanks
  13. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    To be frank, I dont see any significant benefit at all.
  14. Perkosya_QT

    Air-Force Indonesia to boost air force with F-15EX, Rafale fighter jets

    F-15 is a battle proven, and E serie is the most advanced/4.5 gen. Rafale is also a very good multirole fighter, but it is expensive.
  15. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    Not sufficient compared to the potential loss.
  16. Perkosya_QT

    Indonesia Casual Discussion Warkop Indonesia

    What is our advantage by joining Quad?

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