TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

[B_A]

@IC3M@N FX

Not to go off ropic ama lots of stories Arabs selling out their own this was also during the Prophet Muhammed(peace be upon him)s time too numerous backstabbers came from Arabs.

When the Aksumite Empire actually invaded Makkah, Aksumite soldiers asked where the Kaaba was an Arab actualy told him I call tell you where it is for a piece of gold.

Its easy to find numerous people to sell out their own kind

Im not surprised that Mossad has so many lackeys. Whats even more sad we seen how Israel treats Arabs. A lot of these lackeys return back to Israel they will basically be treated like subhumans.

IDF even has lots of Druze soldiers even Circassians. Same Circassians who suffered genocide from the Russians are now becoming footsoldiers to do Israel's dirty work against Palestinians.

Dont forget in the Turkish independance war how Cerkes Etem turn against us and how Circassians participated in burning Turkish villages.

Its not racist at all to mention this because its all apart of history.

Israel is lasting this long because the Arabs are not united at all they are too busy scheming each other and trying backstab each other to even unite with each other.

People forget who actually led the war against the Crusaders it was the Zengids and Salahuddin Ayubi both were not Arab or Palestinian.

Holy lands will be liberated by a Non Arab Muslim mark my words.

The Arabs of Today was just a mixture of a lot of ancient nations.

For example,the Barbary corsairs and Ottoman Turks in North Africa are also Arabs now.They were good fighters

The people of Fertile Crescent cant fight,that s for thousand years.The Romans said they were far weaker than Germans.

They just became the Arabs since the Arab conquest.

And the real Arabs from Arabian Peninsula were good fighters 1300 years ago but not now.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

It's not really about ethnicity, we should also stop making these people worse than they are. It is not a reproach to anyone. But it is a fact that almost all peoples were defeated in modern times, in this case in the early 20th century.

Morocco = colonial country France / Spain
Algeria = colonial country France
Tunisia = Colonial country France
Libya = Colonial country Italy
Egypt = Colonial country France / Britain
Saudi Arabia = Used and only by the grace of Britain was she allowed to found her own country
Syria = Colonial country France
Lebanon = Colonial country France
United Arab Emirates = Colonial country Britain created by the permission of the British to withdraw

This runs like a red thread from North Africa to the Middle East. I can list countless Arab countries.
They are all defeated peoples, you can see in Syria, Iraq & Co how they fled in droves as soon as there was a war.
They have zero identity and no will to fight because their own country treated them badly beforehand, and if a country allows itself to be subjugated then this inferiority will not go away.
Because honestly, what can these countries be proud of that a national pride develops at all?
They have no self-esteem, I don't mean that in a bad way to defame these people, but they simply lack an identity.
What's more, they are also consumed by hatred towards each other the Arabic Countries.
They have zero trust in each other and the Arab League is a laughing stock that cannot exert any pressure on the USA or Europe.

The Europeans are still angry today that Turkey and Iran have a national pride that goes beyond their own value of life and cannot be bought.
Because they were simply not defeated or colonized.

 

[B_A]

It's not really about ethnicity, we should also stop making these people worse than they are. It is not a reproach to anyone. But it is a fact that almost all peoples were defeated in modern times, in this case in the early 20th century.

Morocco = colonial country France / Spain
Algeria = colonial country France
Tunisia = Colonial country France
Libya = Colonial country Italy
Egypt = Colonial country France / Britain
Saudi Arabia = Used and only by the grace of Britain was she allowed to found her own country
Syria = Colonial country France
Lebanon = Colonial country France
United Arab Emirates = Colonial country Britain created by the permission of the British to withdraw

This runs like a red thread from North Africa to the Middle East. I can list countless Arab countries.
They are all defeated peoples, you can see in Syria, Iraq & Co how they fled in droves as soon as there was a war.
They have zero identity and no will to fight because their own country treated them badly beforehand.
They have no self-esteem, I don't mean that in a bad way to defame these people, but they simply lack an identity. The Europeans are still angry today that Turkey and Iran have a national pride that goes beyond their own value of life and cannot be bought.

Actually They were all conquest by us before defeated by Western,


There only a few countries never became a colony in modern history.Even in west, France conquest by German in WW2)

US
UK
Russia
Ottoman-Turkey(defeated but not be conquered)
China(if not count the Machu as foreigners)
Persian/iran(defeated and controlled but not be conquered)
Japan(up to you how to see 1945)

and several others(Tayland and Swedish or others)

We are the several special people.

 

[Asena_great]

The Arabs of Today was just a mixture of a lot of ancient nations.

For example,the Barbary corsairs and Ottoman Turks in North Africa are also Arabs now.They were good fighters

The people of Fertile Crescent cant fight,that s for thousand years.The Romans said they were far weaker than Germans.

They just became the Arabs since the Arab conquest.

And the real Arabs from Arabian Peninsula were good fighters 1300 years ago but not now.

that is Islamic imperialism and if we dont resist this the same fate of Syrians Iraqis and Egyptians await us. give arabc name for our kids follow Arabic customs and behaviors celebrate Arabic festivals such ramzan bayrami or kurban bayrami instead of Nardoqan, Kosaqan, Paktaqan, Paynaqan and Sayaqan

we must protect our culture

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1743213810108760158

 

[Ryder]

that is Islamic imperialism and if we dont resist this the same fate of Syrians Iraqis and Egyptians await us. give arabc name for our kids follow Arabic customs and behaviors celebrate Arabic festivals such ramzan bayrami or kurban bayrami instead of Nardoqan, Kosaqan, Paktaqan, Paynaqan and Sayaqan

we must protect our culture

Ottomans, Seljuks and the Muslim Mongols also engaged in Islamic imperialism.

LOL

 

[Sanchez]

Hear me out...

 

[uçuyorum]

Hear me out...

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[Asena_great]

Ottomans, Seljuks and the Muslim Mongols also engaged in Islamic imperialism.

LOL

i don't see Arabs Persians and Greek putting Turkish name on their children and celebrating Turkish festivals

ottomans or seljuks didn't change the language festival and culture of the people they conquered nor did they change the religion of the conquered people. Greeks are best example after 400 years speak in Greek and follow Christianity all the way to modern era. Arabs Persians are other example that we didn't force them to adopt our language, put Turkish name on their children, celebrate our festival or follow our religion. they all keep their culture all the way to modern era

so tell me why greeks bulgars romanians serbs and others are still keeping their culture and religion ???

well on the other hand lets compere French, British and Arab imperialist who force their language , culture (behavior and name changing of children ) and festivals on the people they conquered. well i don't see differences between them. ofc despite this being clear as a day that we never force our language and culture on other people you always WILL say we are same with the French, British and Arab imperialist. your willingness to blackened our name for the sake of your religion shows you are Muslim first and maybe a turk second when it comes us vs them you will always sell us out

 

[Ryder]

i don't see Arabs Persians and Greek putting Turkish name on their children and celebrating Turkish festivals

ottomans or seljuks didn't change the language festival and culture of the people they conquered nor did they change the religion of the conquered people. Greeks are best example after 400 years speak in Greek and follow Christianity all the way to modern era. Arabs Persians are other example that we didn't force them to adopt our language, put Turkish name on their children, celebrate our festival or follow our religion. they all keep their culture all the way to modern era

so tell me why greeks bulgars romanians serbs and others are still keeping their culture and religion ???

well on the other hand lets compere French, British and Arab imperialist who force their language , culture (behavior and name changing of children ) and festivals on the people they conquered. well i don't see differences between them. ofc despite this being clear as a day that we never force our language and culture on other people you always WILL say we are same with the French, British and Arab imperialist. your willingness to blackened our name for the sake of your religion shows you are Muslim first and maybe a turk second when it comes us vs them you will always sell us out

Bro if you realised this but Turkish surnames tend to be pretty common in Syria, Iraq, Palestine and North Africa.

Basha, Tamer, Baybars, Osmani and various others.

I dont see Arabs even crying or complaining about it by the way.

Chagatai Khanate played a pretty big role in Islamising Central Asia. Even more than the Seljuks and Karakanids.

Islamisation of Central Asia was largely undertaken by Persian missionaries then the Turks and Turkified Mongols like the Chagatai Khanate gradually spread the faith in the entire region.

Arabs largely never saw the Turks become Muslim as they were already long gone from the region.

You'd be surprised at how many Greek peoples actually became Muslim in particular in Syria and Egypt. They speak Arabic while some speak Greek.

It takes centuries for people to be assmiliated into a new culture and even a religion. It does not take overnight.

 

[Afif]

Yeah, and this guy has no idea how Islam came to Bengal. Turkic warriors came carrying swords not roses.

There are some folks in my country who constantly cry about how true bengali culture was being erased, bla bla.

Any societies that becomes Muslim does not see Islam as the extension of ethnic Arab culture. Rather, it is a universal spiritual guidance equal for everybody. Non Arab Muslims are inherents of Islam as much as the Arab Muslims. Trying to manufacture an artificial conflict here between one's ethnic identity and Muslim identity won't work.

If Islam was to ensure Arab superiority, then prophet would have establish a caste or class system. Instead he explicitly made it clear in his most significant sermon-

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety"

The Last Sermon Of Prophet Muhammad(SAW)

 

[Ryder]

Yeah, and this guy has no idea how Islam came to Bengal. Turkic warriors came carrying swords not roses.

There are some folks in my country who constantly cry about how true bengali culture was being erased, bla bla.

Any societies that becomes Muslim does not see Islam as the extension of ethnic Arab culture. Rather, it is a universal spiritual guidance equal for everybody. Non Arab Muslims are inherents of Islam as much as the Arab Muslims. Trying to manufacture an artificial conflict here between one's ethnic identity and Muslim identity won't work.

If was Islam was to ensure Arab superiority, then prophet would have establish a caste or class system. Instead he explicitly made it clear in his most significant sermon-

"All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a White has no superiority over a Black nor a Black has any superiority over a White except by piety"

Begum is a common name in Bangladesh for girls.

 

[Afif]

Begum is a common name in Bangladesh for girls.

Yes, both my grandma's last names are Begum. I hate Turkic imperialism!

 

[Ryder]

Yes, both my grandma's last names are Begum. I hate Turkic imperialism!

You qualify as an Honorary Turkic.

You must awaken your Turkic blood!!

 

[Afif]

You qualify as an Honorary Turkic.

You must awaken your Turkic blood!!

Really good song. Does Bayrak mean flag in Turkish? What does Bayraktar means then?

 

[Ryder]

Really good song. Does Bayrak mean flag in Turkish? What does Bayraktar means then?

Bayrak means flag while Bayraktar means Flag bearer.

 

[uçuyorum]

Really good song. Does Bayrak mean flag in Turkish? What does Bayraktar means then?

Bayraktar means standard bearer

 

[Anastasius]

i don't see Arabs Persians and Greek putting Turkish name on their children and celebrating Turkish festivals

A ton of Greeks have surnames ending -oglu. Just saying.

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1347005444322156545

Happy Jan 6 everybody time to repost this lmaooo

 

[Asena_great]

Bro if you realised this but Turkish surnames tend to be pretty common in Syria, Iraq, Palestine and North Africa.

we have first name such ali osman mohammed zeynep hatice fatma etc i dont see use mete bumin istemi Attila aydin ayla maral sanaz etc...

Chagatai Khanate played a pretty big role in Islamising Central Asia. Even more than the Seljuks and Karakanids.

off topic and irrelevant i gave you example Syria Egypt and Iraq where Arab imperialist completely change the culture of native people from names of children to festival to religen you said we did the same and i gave you another example of Greek Bulgaria Serbia and Romania even Arabia and Persia that we didn't did it to the people that we conquer and yet still you are insist that we are same as bad as they are so here we are now dont do off topic

Arabs largely never saw the Turks become Muslim as they were already long gone from the region.

completely nonsense as they attack khazar turks, turk shahi and khorasan turks. your sentence not just wrong but Untrue

You'd be surprised at how many Greek peoples actually became Muslim in particular in Syria and Egypt. They speak Arabic while some speak Greek.

they never became Turk did they ?? are you that desperate to make such ridiculous comparison. even today if you go alone to the US or German in time you beome american or german we are not talking about that agian i gave you the example of Syria Egypt and Iraq were the native's culture completely erased you said we did the same and i ask why greece bulgaria serbia romania are not turkic then ??

Yeah, and this guy has no idea how Islam came to Bengal. Turkic warriors came carrying swords not roses.

yeah do you know who were those turkic muslim warriors ?? the mamluks of india turkic slave soilders they were enslaved by arabs as child forced into islam trained as mamluks then unleashed on other nations or turkic people to force them into islam in this case it was Bengali people.

memluks were exactly the same as british indian colonial troops for arabs. british indian colonial troops brutally crush any Indian up rasing aginst british masters they fought in Indonesia against Japanese for British benefits they fought Germans in north Africa and Europe instead of staying at home so their British masters could be safe. memluks were exactly the same whether it was memluks of Egypt or memluks of India they were used by their colonials masters

Yeah, and this guy has no idea how Islam came to Bengal. Turkic warriors came carrying swords not roses.

thank you for helping my point (and scouring a goal against your own team ) next time when @Ryder brought up the myth ok peaceful conversion i will reminded him how Islam came to Bengal

Yes, both my grandma's last names are Begum.

Begum is a common name in Bangladesh for girls.

begum is name originated in Persian so its indo-European its normal to be present in Bengal

I hate Turkic imperialism!

do the right thing and remove it i have no objection what do i object is why you get triggered when im trying to do the same for my people

A ton of Greeks have surnames ending -oglu. Just saying.

and im yet to see wide spread turkic first names