This is the mentality i hate.
So,we we should just give up now,its clear 4th place,yes?
No, I didn't say anything like that. That is your comment. Reaching the semifinals after 24 years is a big milestone for us and a big success. Our team is not a team that regularly plays quarters, semis, and finals. We will, of course, give everything to reach the finals, but even if we can't, this is still a success. We have a good shot of beating the Lithuania vs Greece winner. On the other hand, elimination in the quarterfinal would have been a clear failure for the women's volleyball team. Elimination in the semifinals would have been an ok/acceptable performance, and nothing short of playing finals is a success for the women's volleyball team.
For the national football team, qualifying for the World Cup in the group stage is a big overachievement if we consider that Spain is also in the same group and only the group leader qualifies directly. Qualifying via play-offs is a success, elimination in the group stage is a disgrace, and elimination in the play-offs is a failure.
