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I will probably get clubbed to death by Gökbey design team for this View attachment 79136
A quick question ; What is the use of the set of small tri-blades inside the shroud at the back?
One of the andvantages of coaxial blades is to get rid of the small rear rotor.
As a coaxial blade set generates more lift from the same powered engine, it will have better MTOW and better speed.

It won‘t need propellers at the back to give it forward speed too. Besides these will detract from performance of the helicopter due to weight and increase complexity of design.

Coaxial rotors have a lot of advantages. But they are more expensive, more intricate and difficult to manufacture; and also they can be, in rare occasions prone to whipping especially in adverse weather and can cause blades to touch and catastrophically break.
 
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If they say something, you can always hit hem back with this 😁;

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Yes this was a T629 concept but technically this is attack helicopter version of Gökbey as well :)
I remembered a time that my classmate insisted that I shouldve used electric propulsion for cargo helicopters because "batteris gettin bettuh"

or the time that a well known news site thought putting this on TCG Anadolu was a great idea even after years showing that it wasn't feasible at all
Idea is good, design implementation sucks.
If it is, probably because I made it for shits and giggles but rotor blown control surface is a thing, I suggest you check it out

It is an exact copy of L3Harris-Textron submission for FARA. And it is not a good idea either because the idea of a compound high speed helicopter for an OH-58D successor is stupidly overpriced and heavy on maintenance. If anything, that submission and Bell 360 were the least complicated among FARA submissions. The former used electrically driven fans while Bell 360 is simply a Comanche with refinements, variable speed rotor for high speed, and wings to take load off the main rotor.
 

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When you read the sad outcome of what happened to Sultan Genc Osman. The more it feels good when Mahmud II blasted them into smitherens with artillery and the survivors chased by Turkish Sipahis.

The Jannisaries had it coming too bad it took 200 years later.
 

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Our Commander got pre tailored question for him also they don't have to say that it's domestic every time it's starting to get on my nerves and a bit better english would be nice.
 

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When you read the sad outcome of what happened to Sultan Genc Osman. The more it feels good when Mahmud II blasted them into smitherens with artillery and the survivors chased by Turkish Sipahis.

The Jannisaries had it coming too bad it took 200 years later.
when you talked about Jannisaries you forget about 1 thing each of Jannisaries ocağı follow different tarikat leaders and ottoman sultan had to suck up to these leaders otherwise these tarikat şeyh would show the sultan the big hammer which was the Jannisaries they controlled. during selim iii when ottomans start the reform tarikat leaders banded together and use their collative force to overthrow him via their Jannisaries they controlled and prevented the creating of national turkish army by decades until mahmut ii when he use the rivalry between each tarikat to start the fight among them. once they were weakened by fighting each other he pushed for his tanzimat refrom and nizam e ceddid ( new order) and other laik reform especially in education which reduced the influence the power of islamist in governance of the empire. this new laik education system create the generation that later thwarted the Turkish geocide during 12 years of balkan wars to war of independence even though it caused turks approximately 3.5 million lives ! the brightest of these generation was Atatürk

after Atatürk forced fully closed all the tarikat the matter was dead until adnan mendenez save them from death and they gain power during necemmittin erbakan era and reach their golden age during Erdogan were tarikat of fettullah gülen abled to put it its members into army and order them to do 15 temmuz islami darbe hence marking the first time since time of mahmut ii a tarikat abled to access the military of the state and tried with its privet military to shape turkish politics or overthrow its political opponent.
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currently menzil tarikat have alot of powers in gendarmerie basically holding its privet military in disguise of gendarmerie soldiers and using its hammer to shape politics behind the scene and 100% will use it if you ever try to erase them


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the story of 6 years old İsmailağa tarikat girl marring to 28 years old tarikat pig ( following tradition of prophet mohammed ) is another example of tarikat powers. the girl become mother blow age of 16 and it was illegal so they bring another 20+ girl from tarikat and registered her was the mother of the kid ! once he went to doctor and when doctor realized she is married under age, doctor ordered age investigation then the girl who married when he was 6 years old went to tarikat test lab and they also bring in some other 20+ years old tarikat girl and registered her test for the 6 years old ! hence faking the document. this only came to light when she was listening to radio and realized marring in child age is not normal and then she recording her husband voice admitting marring her at age 6 and regretting it

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another example of tarikat powers is adnan oktar's islami pedophile sex tarikat were members offered their 9 years old başörtülü girls to the sex tarikat believing they are earing Sevap by doing sex jihad against kafir kemalist regime. this way adnan oktar who was among top 50 islamic figures in the world abled to record important individual's sex with children then later blackmailed them hence gaining influence over system. from university professors to governors to actors and actress to singers to media barons to rich people were involved except the kemalist army which by law their name and pictures were keep secret and whomever try to record them or revealed them will get punished beside TSK personal live separately from civilians in askeri lojman.

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national security council meeting during 28 şubat 1996. from left to right ismail hakkı karadayı chief of general staff of Turkish armed forces. hikmet koksel head of land forces. Güven Erkaya head of navy. ahmet çörekçi head of airforce. teoman koman head of gendarmerie later MIT Killed during ergenekon and balyoz show trails


the matter of fetö and adnan oktar's pedophile sex tarikat and their crimes brought to erbakan's attention during the 28 şubat MGK meeting and he famously said he has not fault and he just simply cant control his taban. the council forced erbakan to sign 18 madde on which erbakan's government was forced to combat the threat of tarikat and banned their political and economic activates and banned anyone who didnt received his islamic education from diyanet to teach religion to turkish people.

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people like alparslan kuytul ( in the left ) received his islamic education in the Egypt and support al-qaeda and provided turkish fighters for isis in syria and Nureddin Yıldız ( in the right ) received his islamic education in saudi arabia and defended marrying 6 years old as halal and tradition of prophet Mohammad


tarikat ( islamist ) are the 1000 years old problem of Turkish people and turkish leaders had done everything they could to put and end to tarikat and cemaat from fatih mehmet who after conquering istanbul massacred the tarikats and cemaat to murad iv who beheaded the Shaykh al-Islam to open the way of reformed to mahmut ii who start a war among tarikat and then kick them out of governance to atatürk who put and end to tarikat activates both in army and governance as well as education and religious affairs
 
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