TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

[demir283]

Its a pkkli piece of shit that done this crime

Ama its racist to mention which etSindelfingen'deki hnic group it is. But we know who they are.

killer tiktok account . shows more on opposition chp pov...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656762730936713217

 

[No Name]

Whats crazy how well pkk has infiltrated Turkish politics.

We are fcked.

It is because Turkey's electoral system encourages corruption and allows for infiltration of the state by hostile entities. The D'Hondt method, and the closed-list party-list proportional representation system that Turkey uses were designed to protect the politicians from the people, thus keeping power away from them.

The opposition wants to get rid of the presidential system because it is the only system that gives democratic power to the Turkish people. once the presidential system is lost, the people of Turkey will never have any say in how Turkey is run again.

question for the members do you still believe that the republic model of government was the best for Turkey, or would the country have been better of as a constitutional monarchy?

 

[demir283]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656970112807706626

Tahsin Becan CHP Yalova 1st place candidate make blunder comment..

I am from Trabzon. I am from blacksea region, i ask those "are every Black Sea people are 100% good?". They say no. it could be that 5% are even Worse than PKK, you don't know ..you can't categorize it. ?

eee mister : PKK is legit terrorist organization, and you are comparing bad people with terrorist organization ???????? Even claiming they could be worse than PKK terrorist ?????


side info : Tahsin Becan was also sentenced to 9 months and 10 days in prison for FETÖ terroism.

 

[Melkor]

Whatever happens, this country needs decency and humility back in the government.

 

[UkroTurk]

Turkish opposition leader accuses Russia​

Turkish opposition leader accuses Russia of spreading conspiracies, deep fakes ahead of election

Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu says, “If you want our friendship after May 15, get your hands off the Turkish state.”

www.politico.eu

 

[Ryder]

It is because Turkey's electoral system encourages corruption and allows for infiltration of the state by hostile entities. The D'Hondt method, and the closed-list party-list proportional representation system that Turkey uses were designed to protect the politicians from the people, thus keeping power away from them.

The opposition wants to get rid of the presidential system because it is the only system that gives democratic power to the Turkish people. once the presidential system is lost, the people of Turkey will never have any say in how Turkey is run again.

question for the members do you still believe that the republic model of government was the best for Turkey, or would the country have been better of as a constitutional monarchy?

Every system is suspectible to corruption.

But man I actually hate monarchy because every fcking day they talk about the British Royal Family.

In Australia when the Queen died news here was non stop it made me go crazy.

 

[Bogeyman]

It is because Turkey's electoral system encourages corruption and allows for infiltration of the state by hostile entities. The D'Hondt method, and the closed-list party-list proportional representation system that Turkey uses were designed to protect the politicians from the people, thus keeping power away from them.

The opposition wants to get rid of the presidential system because it is the only system that gives democratic power to the Turkish people. once the presidential system is lost, the people of Turkey will never have any say in how Turkey is run again.

question for the members do you still believe that the republic model of government was the best for Turkey, or would the country have been better of as a constitutional monarchy?

So what; Should the electoral system be like in America? You know, that's the freest country, isn't it? Should parties be funded directly by companies?

 

[No Name]

Every system is suspectible to corruption.

But man I actually hate monarchy because every fcking day they talk about the British Royal Family.

In Australia when the Queen died news here was non stop it made me go crazy.

there is a difference between a system that is susceptible to corruption and a system being built to sustain corruption. The Turkish system was built to maintain corruption and keep power away from the people just go read up on the D'Hondt method, a party-list proportional representation system, especially the Closed-list system.

 

[TheInsider]

OPTIMAR released an interesting poll today. It is one of the polling companies I follow closely as OPTIMAR predicted the 2018 elections nearly with pinpoint accuracy.

Election results according to OPTIMAR

2023 Cumhurbaşkanlığı Seçim Anketi

%50,4 Recep Tayyip Erdoğan
%44,7 Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu
%3,4 Sinan Oğan
%1,5 Muharrem İnce

Sample size 5950 person.

ORC and KONDA show a first-round Kılıçdaroğlu win.

 

[No Name]

So what; Should the electoral system be like in America? You know, that's the freest country, isn't it? Should parties be funded directly by companies?

Did you even read up on the closed-list proportional representation or the D'Hondt method?

The American system would be an improvement as it would mean the politicians would be directly elected into office, thus not only stopping parties from being run like they are dictatorships but also reducing them from being infiltrated by hostile entities.

Also, the is nothing in the closed-list proportional representation or the D'Hondt method that protects the Turkish elector system from being funded directly by companies.

Here is the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance webpage on funding rules in Turkey hope this helps you understand more about how the Turkish electoral system works.

 

[what]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656957524224950272

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656942483169845254

 

[TheInsider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656942483169845254

This one is close to my personal prediction. Kılıçdaroğlu will come out ahead but he can't manage to pass the %50 threshold needed for a first-round win.

 

[TheInsider]

2018 Elections
Voters in Turkiye 56.322.632
Voters in foreign countries 3.044.837
Total 59.367.469

2023 Elections
Voters in Turkiye 60.697.843
Voters in foreign countries 3.416.498
Total 64.113.941

The difference is 4.746.472 but that doesn't tell the whole story as every year approx 500k people die approx 2.5 million people died in 5 years so the voter base is increased by approx 7.25 million people. This is extremely fishy and makes zero sense. There is %100 something wrong with those numbers.

 

[No Name]

Turkey needs to lower its age limit on the presidential candidates. Having the age of 40 be the limit is just stupid and does nothing to benefit the nation. the only thing such an age limit does is restricts more codified individuals from running and guarantee only individuals that are out of touch with technology and social changes are allowed to have a chance of being president.

 

[TheInsider]

2018 Elections
Voters in Turkiye 56.322.632
Voters in foreign countries 3.044.837
Total 59.367.469

2023 Elections
Voters in Turkiye 60.697.843
Voters in foreign countries 3.416.498
Total 64.113.941

The difference is 4.746.472 but that doesn't tell the whole story as every year approx 500k people die approx 2.5 million people died in 5 years so the voter base is increased by approx 7.25 million people. This is extremely fishy and makes zero sense. There is %100 something wrong with those numbers.

I'm surprised no one talks about this. It is crazy. It is like there is an agreement between parties to not to talk about this.

 

[Tornadoss]

In the Derbent district of Konya, fake ballot papers stamped with Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu and CHP in the presidential and parliamentary elections were found in the vehicle of CHP District Chairman Salih Çakıllıkoyak. Action was taken against the operator of the printing house that printed the compasses, the delivery vehicle and the CHP District President. They were probably going to stir things up because Kılıçdaroğlu ballots came out of the garbage on the election day.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657015640945729539

This is fake news
These are not voting papers.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657011917108510720

 

[Bogeyman]

This is fake news
These are not voting papers.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657011917108510720

The text is unreadable.

 

[Tornadoss]

The text is unreadable.

Yeah then check the picture you shared, it's obviously not a real ballot, written on the paper, "ittifakin ve partilerin oy pusulasindaki yeri kesinlesi" ( the alliances and parties placement's became definite" ).

 

[Zafer]

My guess: Erdoğan wins with 50.8 % majority this Sunday.

 

[demir283]

This is fake news
These are not voting papers.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657011917108510720

for clarifications

it's about these voting paper with stamp on it. not the others....