those are printed, not stamped. you can see they're identical.for clarifications
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it's about these voting paper with stamp on it. not the others....
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those are printed, not stamped. you can see they're identical.for clarifications
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it's about these voting paper with stamp on it. not the others....
It doesn't have to be real to cause sedition, to make people believe that votes were stolen. After the election, let people believe that the votes were stolen, that's enough for them. Because everything ends in people's perception. For people who constantly believe that votes were stolen, even a false proof will be enough to convince them. Then they will begin to believe their own lies.for clarifications
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44-year-old Ayhan B. and Özkan K. were shot and killed at the Mercedes-Benz factory facilities in Sindelfingen, Germany, because of their pro-government political views.
It was learned that the 53-year-old murder suspect threatened his colleagues after a discussion about the elections in Turkey days ago, and was fired after that.
It turned out that the murder suspect has many anti-government known as Laz muro on tiktok posts on his social media accounts
i am not the investigator that is police issue. it seems there was a issue with the vote papers . .... also, people are going to count thousands of voting paper . Having identical is easily miss seeing.....those are printed, not stamped. you can see they're identical.
It doesn't have to be real to cause sedition, to make people believe that votes were stolen. After the election, let people believe that the votes were stolen, that's enough for them. Because everything ends in people's perception. For people who constantly believe that votes were stolen, even a false proof will be enough to convince them. Then they will begin to believe their own lies.
You are right.there is a difference between a system that is susceptible to corruption and a system being built to sustain corruption. The Turkish system was built to maintain corruption and keep power away from the people just go read up on the D'Hondt method, a party-list proportional representation system, especially the Closed-list system.
No, it's not both are claimed in the same tweet.for clarifications
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eee there are local nieuws that has other claims.. i don't bother with all unnecessary info. Free to look up local news or news channels sources.No, it's not both are claimed in the same tweet.
Clearly both photos are taken at the same place. you selectively believe one is used the other is not. And wonder who owns this local outlets.eee there are local nieuws that has other claims.. i don't bother with all unnecessary info. Free to look up local news or news channels sources.
???? the sources you presented mentions no Japan ???You are right.
An good example of Closed-list system is Japan
A party ruled the country for almost 80 years after ww2 and every MP made their son to MP
How? Everyone can print these at home. Will People Alliance leave the ballot-boxes unattended so others can put their fake papers in? It doesn't compute.i am not the investigator that is police issue. it seems there was a issue with the vote papers . .... also, people are going to count thousands of voting paper . Having identical is easily miss seeing.....
eee ,, do I need to explain the whole issues ???How? Everyone can print these at home. Will People Alliance leave the ballot-boxes unattended so others can put their fake papers in? It doesn't compute.
Syrians?2018 Elections
Voters in Turkiye 56.322.632
Voters in foreign countries 3.044.837
Total 59.367.469
2023 Elections
Voters in Turkiye 60.697.843
Voters in foreign countries 3.416.498
Total 64.113.941
The difference is 4.746.472 but that doesn't tell the whole story as every year approx 500k people die approx 2.5 million people died in 5 years so the voter base is increased by approx 7.25 million people. This is extremely fishy and makes zero sense. There is %100 something wrong with those numbers.
Damn it! I guess I'll have to save this stuff somewhere. Because if stolen ballot papers start to appear on election night, someone needs to remind our opposing friends about the frauds of the CHP.It doesn't have to be real to cause sedition, to make people believe that votes were stolen. After the election, let people believe that the votes were stolen, that's enough for them. Because everything ends in people's perception. For people who constantly believe that votes were stolen, even a false proof will be enough to convince them. Then they will begin to believe their own lies.
this is treasonSyrians?