TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

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If you vote bir Ogan this is what you’re voting for wow. He’s pledging to sell his votes to the highest bidder and people call him a nationalist give me a break. He’s another wanna be that wants to fill his pockets instead of looking out for his people. Shame on anyone that votes for this crook


“S.Ogan says; My aim is to leave the election to the second round. In the second round, we will support whichever candidate gives us the vice presidency and ministry. There is no support for free. The reason why the country went into chaos for 15 days is the benefits he will get by bargaining in the second round 👉 it is nationalist?
Cutting videos to fit your narrative is no good.
 

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If you vote bir Ogan this is what you’re voting for wow. He’s pledging to sell his votes to the highest bidder and people call him a nationalist give me a break. He’s another wanna be that wants to fill his pockets instead of looking out for his people. Shame on anyone that votes for this crook


“S.Ogan says; My aim is to leave the election to the second round. In the second round, we will support whichever candidate gives us the vice presidency and ministry. There is no support for free. The reason why the country went into chaos for 15 days is the benefits he will get by bargaining in the second round 👉 it is nationalist?
Nothing wrong with that , comletely normal , aslo will be great if he enters in goverment and safeguard it or you want goverment full of leftist US or Eu or Hdp asslickers ?!
Why people are so afraid from their nationalists ?! They just eant the best for their nation and they are the first that even fight in wars for their nation .
 

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Nothing wrong with that , comletely normal , aslo will be great if he enters in goverment and safeguard it or you want goverment full of leftist US or Eu or Hdp asslickers ?!
Why people are so afraid from their nationalists ?! They just eant the best for their nation and they are the first that even fight in wars for their nation .
Does his comments want what’s best for the country or himself? I thought he wanted all the refuges out? Listen, there is no problem in requesting a seat from the Nation Alliance in the second round. I think it would be a fair request. The problem is that you say that you will make this bargain with the current government when his motto is "Let's change things, we will close the doors of hell". Yea that’s not going to fly.. that’s flat out deceiving your base🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Nothing wrong with that , comletely normal , aslo will be great if he enters in goverment and safeguard it or you want goverment full of leftist US or Eu or Hdp asslickers ?!
Why people are so afraid from their nationalists ?! They just eant the best for their nation and they are the first that even fight in wars for their nation .
Do you really want the best for your country if you say your votes will support the best bidding?
Sounds more like you want the best for your pocket.
 

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My guess: Erdoğan wins with 50.8 % majority this Sunday.
Ok, let's get everyone's predictions for both presidential and parliamentary elections; here are mine:

I could just average out the 6-7 reliable polls there is and get very close to the actual results but there's no fun in that; so I will add my own speculations about what the polls might get wrong to spice it up (but I can already bet that I will be wrong and the polls will be right). I think there are many factors that might mislead polls. For presidential elections these are 2: a) opposition voters are more likely to withhold information due to the atmosphere of pressure and this has grown in the years since 2018-2019 elections, this might contribute from 1 to 2% to KK. b) status quo voters are less enthusiastic about their votes, so they may be more likely to answer polls but not actually go vote or even abandon long lines, might translate to a loss of up to 1% of the votes. So my prediction for presidential election is


Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu52.5%
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan44.5%
Sinan Oğan2.5
Muharrem İnce0.4

Now to parliamentary results. Akp has lost about 7-8%, but it has also gained about 1-2% opposition nationalist votes, and about 1-2% new citizen vote, predominentally of Syrian kind. CHP has lost about 1-1.5% urbanite liberal youth vote to TİP (small business owners and their kids who have a nagging sympathy about workers who their dads or themselves work to death so they seek redemption by casting a vote to the socialist party as they first hear about socialism), probably about 1% to İYİ, but they will gain 1% from YSP amid all the confusion, and some 2-3% nonvoters or new voters and about probably 2.5% old Akp voters courtesy of old Erdoğan guard among their ranks. İYİ will gain that 1% from CHP, will gain 2-3% new and youth vote, will gain 1% from MHP. YSP will lose 0.5% to TİP, 1% to CHP, 0.5% due to confusion. MHP has lost that 1% to İYİ, and about 1% to Zafer, and even more than that will not vote. YRP will get more than any poll indicates because they're the party most encompassing that divorced dad misogyny energy of the good old shame/honor culture of the mediterranean (a la Andrew Tate). They are a very dangerous proposition, as a breakup of AKP will result in the flooding of their ranks and seeing as how they are anti-science, anti-vax, anti-evolution, and overall the congregation of everything disgusting about humanity, this will be huge challenge for Turkey coming up. My predictions are:

AKP36%MHP6.7%
YRP1.7%CHP26.4%
İYİ13.7%YSP9.5%
TİP1.8%ZP1.3%
MP0.9%Others2
 
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I'm afraid I can't translate this. hahaha. Only for Turkish members. Devlet Bahceli made such a gaffe that I think I laughed for half an hour.

I doubted if it's real or a montage so opened the "A Haber" live stream on youtube and moved it back to 17:33, listened to it and I heard the words myself. It threw me off. It's real 😂

BTW, you should add the translation to your post.
 

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“Will there be a resolution process again?

AKP Batman Candidate Ferhat Nasıroğlu: “I will make this my goal. This issue is a big problem for all of us, a big wound. This is a deep issue for the whole of the geography, Kurdistan. This matter must be resolved.” 🤷🏻‍♂️🫶


I have never seen Ak party voters attack people together with HDP members on the field. But CHP and HDP supporters attack people on the street together and try to lynch them. You will still not claim that the CHP and HDP did not form an alliance, would you?

By the way, a deputy's statement that the solution process will come back does not mean anything by itself. There is no party support behind it. Therefore, their ideas will dissolve in the party. However, I have never seen the CHP openly support the operations against the PKK in Syria and Iraq. On the contrary, they tried to prevent the bills from being approved in the parliament. The scene reveals who is trying to make the flea look like a camel.
 

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I doubted if it's real or a montage so opened the "A Haber" live stream on youtube and moved it back to 17:33, listened to it and I heard the words myself. It threw me off. It's real 😂

BTW, you should add the translation to your post.
Üstadım, I wish you had translated it? :D

Btw, I know that he said "if they tries to shake/shrug", but the textwriter couldn't find another word on that? I'm sure that word was chosen specifically because of the way the sentence unfolds.

For our friends who don't understand Turkish,

Silkmek = Shake, shrug
Sikmek = Fuck him

In this video, Bahçeli telling a joke happening in Anatolia, and which includes an Englishman, an American, a Frenchman and a German. When you change a single word, a completely different meaning emerges.

(the reason for sharing this is to soften the nerves a little, sorry if it's a little off-topic.)
 

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Do you really want the best for your country if you say your votes will support the best bidding?
Sounds more like you want the best for your pocket.
He didnt say ,i want money , He said i want ministries and vise president , Thats why electrions are there , All of them want power in goverment to change their country in their way they think is the best way .
For me myself i trust next Turk goverment more with Zafer party and Oğan part of that goverment .
 

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He says “Baskan yardimciligi” at 37th second.
I thought he was a nationalist. In his speeches and the programs Every two seconds he mentions the people.. how he is all about the people, all for the people but in reality this whole time he was seeking to move up the ladder and fill his pockets as fast as he can. He ain’t about the people.. he is for himself


LoL

So when KK go make a pact with the devil nothing wrong, and when other do they are not nationalists?
 

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He didnt say ,i want money , He said i want ministries and vise president , Thats why electrions are there , All of them want power in goverment to change their country in their way they think is the best way .
For me myself i trust next Turk goverment more with Zafer party and Oğan part of that goverment .
In the end its about money, a party should only do coalition with whoever comes close to its ideology not to get seats.
Either ogan doesnt know his voter base or he just wants to sell his votes simple as that.
 

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In the end its about money, a party should only do coalition with whoever comes close to its ideology not to get seats.
Either ogan doesnt know his voter base or he just wants to sell his votes simple as that.

Ogan will ally with Erdogan in my opinion
 

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Ogan will ally with Erdogan in my opinion
Sinan Oğan: If we do not make it to the second round, our principles will remain on the table. We have always spoken with principles, and it will be the same from now on. Of course, our basic principle will be to close the gates of hell as we have always said. Believe in us, trust us. Herşey Çok Güzel Olacak! (Millet Alliance's main election slogan)
 
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