TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

[Xenon54]

If an immigrant has acquired citizenship in accordance with the rules, the opposition cannot demand such a thing. The opposition's problem concerns the granting of citizenship to immigrants. They question the legitimacy of the policy. However, the official policy of the state is clear today. And those citizens can vote however they want. Just like our friends who immigrated to Europe and got citizenship. I don't care about the dissidents point of view or what they think about citizenship policies. But the current table is exactly like this...

Yeah no its not that easy to compare 3rd generation Turks in europe born and raised here with refugees who got citizenship after a couple years without even properly speaking turkish.
These allegations were raised last election and back then you guys were denying it, now that evidence is overwhelming you guys try to legitimze it, typical akp tactics.

Look at this shameful picture, this is impossible in Switzerland, the swiss people would get rid of any politician doing this, your comparison sucks.

 

[Anmdt]

If an immigrant has acquired citizenship in accordance with the rules, the opposition cannot demand such a thing. The opposition's problem concerns the granting of citizenship to immigrants. They question the legitimacy of the policy. However, the official policy of the state is clear today. And those citizens can vote however they want. Just like our friends who immigrated to Europe and got citizenship. I don't care about the dissidents point of view or what they think about citizenship policies. But the current table is exactly like this...

This is valid if they are granting citizenships 'fairly'.

Wife of a friend of mine could not receive a citizenship despite of staying in Turkey for 10 years, working in a respectable company, got children, speaks turkish fluently.

Her permanent residence application was also rejected earlier. No reason was given.

They profile whom to be granted with a citizenship.

 

[I_Love_F16]

Yeah no its not that easy to compare 3rd generation Turks in europe born and raised here with refugees who got citizenship after a couple years without even properly speaking turkish.
These allegations were raised last election and back then you guys were denying it, now that evidence is overwhelming you guys try to legitimze it, typical akp tactics.

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Look at this shameful picture, this is impossible in Switzerland, the swiss people would get rid of any politician doing this, your comparison sucks.

These guys loves to spite their hate to the Western World but believe me, such picture here would cause the immediate demission of the government who posted it. This would be considered as high treason. It's known fact that multiple parties including AKP, have an agenda to fill Turkiye with an insane amount of illegals. We know very well why.

 

[Xenon54]

These guys loves to spite their hate to the Western World but believe me, such picture here would cause the immediate demission of the government who posted it. This would be considered as high treason.

Who cares, erdo is always right, dont meddle in turkish politics you gurbetci, unless you vote akp ofcourse.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

I expect the turnout rate to be really high. Everyone is participating in the election. I voted early in the morning but there was a queue.

As expected Syrians are voting in masse. Names are Turkified Mohamad became Muhammed but can be traced from their birth town. Albab has never seen an Assad occupation. There was a brief ISIS occupation but Turkish armed forces quickly drove ISIS out. I don't know why we kept them here and gave them Turkish IDs when their town is secure.

An Afghan voter in Eskişehir. They are everywhere.

What if they are Turks ?
Suria have alot of Turks even has an army of turkish brigade with syrian turks so they have right to vote just as you have .

 

[Bogeyman]

Yeah no its not that easy to compare 3rd generation Turks in europe born and raised here with refugees who got citizenship after a couple years without even properly speaking turkish.
These allegations were raised last election and back then you guys were denying it, now that evidence is overwhelming you guys try to legitimze it, typical akp tactics.

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Look at this shameful picture, this is impossible in Switzerland, the swiss people would get rid of any politician doing this, your comparison sucks.

Europe's right-wing extremists don't care about your money or your education. He thinks you shouldn't live in Germany or France just by looking at your skin color. So you're not doing anything different. I remember very clearly how different academics from Islamic countries were lynched at Istanbul Technical University.

By the way, my father was also a German immigrant. He worked in factories. If he had not returned to his hometown, I could have been a second generation German citizen. However, you forget that when it comes to integration, the Germans want the HDP to be voted, not Erdogan. Today, Akparti is forbidden to make propaganda in Germany. However, the German Left Party can open a joint election office with the HDP. This is what the Germans understand by integration. You forget how the Germans lynched Mesut Özil when they supported Erdoğan. And you don't care. You are just busy cursing Afghans in Turkey.

Today you are no different from an Afghan in Turkey. Because the Germans will not give you an equal status. You will not hesitate to do the same to Afghans and Syrians in Turkey. It's not called civilization.

 

[Asena_great]

If an immigrant has acquired citizenship in accordance with the rules

according to international law those who are under the temporarily protection status cant gain citizenship no matter how long they stay in host country or what kind of investment. the biggest example of this was Kosovo war where the Albanians who fled the war denied refugee status by Europe instead they received temporarily protection status and after war they were all deported. and according to the Turkish constitution citizenship of children are determined not by place of birth but by blood so only if one of the parent of the child has Turkish citizenship they will received the Turkish citizenship. as by now the number of refugees in turkey are 28

as for afghans their status are illegal Aliens. according to the international law if one fleeing a conflict , can only apply for refugee status in the first safe surrounding neighbor countries. as you know afghans bypass Iran in order to get to turkey their status and those of Pakistanis are kaçak and since they committed this type of crime according to law not only their path to citizenship is block but they lose the chance to get one in perpetuity

@Bogeyman explain to me how they get their citizenship ???????

 

[Bogeyman]

according to international law those who are under the temporarily protection status cant gain citizenship no matter how long or what kind of investment. the biggest example of this was Kosovo war where the Albanians who fled the war denied refugee status by Europe instead they received temporarily protection status and after war they were all deported. and according to the Turkish constitution citizenship of children are determined not by place of birth but by blood so only if one of the parent of the child has Turkish citizenship they will received the Turkish citizenship. as by now the number of refugees in turkey are 28

as for afghans their status are illegal Alias . according to the international law if one fleeing a conflict , can only apply for refugee status in the first safe surrounding neighbor countries. as you know afghans bypass Iran in order to get to turkey their status and those of Pakistanis are kaçak and since they committed this type of crime according to law not only their path to citizenship is block but they lose the chance to get one in perpetuity

@Bogeyman explain to me how they get their citizenship ???????

You first find out how the British distribute passports in Taiwan, then let's sit down and talk about international law.

 

[Asena_great]

You first find out how the British distribute passports in Taiwan, then let's sit down and talk about international law.

don't answer my question by question im not gonna play your game we both know they received citizenship illegally in order to make an impact on election (oh people no longer vote for me then i will Bering 13 million people to get reelected) not only they will lose it but those who gave them the citizenship will be trialed at court

 

[Ryder]

Lol this what happens when you make your citizenship with civic bs.

If your father is Turkish but your mother is not you are Turkish.

If your mother is Turkish and your father is not. This counts as a DSQ.

Hard facts our rule that our ancestors have laid to us that your race comes from your father's side.

I dont argue with me argur with your ancestors for laying this rule.

Every culture or tribe have such a rule.

But the Jewish race is maternal not Paternal. Turkish and Turkic its paternal.

 

[Asena_great]

What if they are Turks ?
Suria have alot of Turks even has an army of turkish brigade with syrian turks so they have right to vote just as you have .

and when will this ends ?? i am a turk too but dont have citizenship and cant vote. we all must obey the rule of law

 

[Ryder]

What if they are Turks ?
Suria have alot of Turks even has an army of turkish brigade with syrian turks so they have right to vote just as you have .

You mean Syrian Turkmens?

It depends really many have Arab names some have Turkified Arab names many also carry Turkish names.

Syrian Turkmens and Iraqi Turkmens can easily get citizenship.

The thing is the Turkish government tries to limit as it is believed if the Syrian Turkmens and Iraqi Turkmens leave that this means we cant have any kind of claims there as the Arabs and Kurds can easily takeover their land and properties.

My Iraqi Turkmen friend told me about this.

Its encouraged for them to stay if not these places will be lost for good.

If only both had a state not only will they be our neighbours the Turkic world will be enlarged even more.

We wont have to deal with any bs from the Arabs and Kurds.

Turkiye trying to uphold Both Syria and Iraq territorial integrity was the biggest mistake in Geopolitical history.

 

[Xenon54]

Europe's right-wing extremists don't care about your money or your education. He thinks you shouldn't live in Germany or France just by looking at your skin color. So you're not doing anything different. I remember very clearly how different academics from Islamic countries were lynched at Istanbul Technical University.

By the way, my father was also a German immigrant. He worked in factories. If he had not returned to his hometown, I could have been a second generation German citizen. However, you forget that when it comes to integration, the Germans want the HDP to be voted, not Erdogan. Today, Akparti is forbidden to make propaganda in Germany. However, the German Left Party can open a joint election office with the HDP. This is what the Germans understand by integration. You forget how the Germans lynched Mesut Özil when they supported Erdoğan. And you don't care. You are just busy cursing Afghans in Turkey.

Today you are no different from an Afghan in Turkey. Because the Germans will not give you an equal status. You will not hesitate to do the same to Afghans and Syrians in Turkey. It's not called civilization.

I stopped reading after realizing that you keep talking about Germany, i live in Switzerland and no its not the same, the differences are huge and i dont care about Germanys internal probles with immgration. Get the facts straight before you make aaumptions about my life in Switzerland.

Your post is completely besides the point we are talking about how its not easy in Europe to earn citizenship while in Turkey ist being handed out for money and political gains and you come here and talk about how i am not welcome here bla bla, either come up with real arguments or just leave it.

PS: seeing how many of our Turks act in Germany i probably wouldnt want them either...

 

[Deliorman]

I have already seen numerous videos from Sanliurfa province of voting fraud happening. This video is AKP in a nutshell- Stealing and cheating while saying "Bismillah!".

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657704317988622342

 

[Agha Sher]

 

[Agha Sher]

CHP knows themselves that KK cannot be trusted

 

[Bogeyman]

I stopped reading after realizing that you keep talking about Germany, i live in Switzerland and no its not the same, the differences are huge and i dont care about Germanys internal probles with immgration.

I guess you seem unaware of Swiss politics. The Swiss People's Party (SVP) came to power in 2015. And it is known for its anti-immigrant policies. Today it is still the strongest opposition in the parliament. In other words, what I wrote directly concerns you.
The right-wing, anti-immigration Swiss People's Party (SVP) has won Switzerland's parliamentary election with a record 29.4% of the vote. (19 October 2015)

Anti-immigration SVP wins Swiss election in big swing to right

The anti-immigration Swiss People's Party (SVP) wins a parliamentary election, confirming it as Switzerland's dominant political force.

www.bbc.com

Changing political landscape​

Over the last 20 years Switzerland’s political landscape has been marked by the considerable gains made by the SVP, a conservative party with roots in the farming community, at the expense of other right-wing parties. In the 2019 federal elections, this trend was reversed in favour of the Green parties: though the SVP remained the strongest party in Parliament with 59 seats, it lost eleven of the seats it won in 2015. There were losses for other major parties, too, including the SP (48 seats -7), FDP.The Liberals (41 seats -5), and the Centre (41 seats -7). The two Green parties (GPS and GLP) gained an additional 30 seats, giving them 49 seats in total.

Political parties

The SVP, Centre, SP, and FDP.The Liberals are all represented in the Swiss government.

www.eda.admin.ch

If this party comes back to power one day (if we look at their strong position in the opposition), their policies may pose a problem for you. And you still continue to humiliate Afghans.

 

[B_A]

according to international law those who are under the temporarily protection status cant gain citizenship no matter how long they stay in host country or what kind of investment. the biggest example of this was Kosovo war where the Albanians who fled the war denied refugee status by Europe instead they received temporarily protection status and after war they were all deported. and according to the Turkish constitution citizenship of children are determined not by place of birth but by blood so only if one of the parent of the child has Turkish citizenship they will received the Turkish citizenship. as by now the number of refugees in turkey are 28

as for afghans their status are illegal Aliens. according to the international law if one fleeing a conflict , can only apply for refugee status in the first safe surrounding neighbor countries. as you know afghans bypass Iran in order to get to turkey their status and those of Pakistanis are kaçak and since they committed this type of crime according to law not only their path to citizenship is block but they lose the chance to get one in perpetuity

@Bogeyman explain to me how they get their citizenship ???????

There are many different case we cant decide without evidence

1.Maybe his father was turkish citizen but working in Afghan when he born.(i born in British Hong Kong when my father did business there so my pasaport show cin/hong kong)

2.Maybe He bought estate or invested in Turkiye and get citizenship

3.Maybe He married a Turkish girl for years and get citizenship

4.Maybe He worked in Turkish for years and get citizenship.

5.Maybe AKP just grant them citizenship. without good reason

 

[B_A]

I guess you seem unaware of Swiss politics. The Swiss People's Party (SVP) came to power in 2015. And it is known for its anti-immigrant policies. Today it is still the strongest opposition in the parliament. In other words, what I wrote directly concerns you.
The right-wing, anti-immigration Swiss People's Party (SVP) has won Switzerland's parliamentary election with a record 29.4% of the vote. (19 October 2015)

Anti-immigration SVP wins Swiss election in big swing to right

The anti-immigration Swiss People's Party (SVP) wins a parliamentary election, confirming it as Switzerland's dominant political force.

www.bbc.com

Changing political landscape​

Over the last 20 years Switzerland’s political landscape has been marked by the considerable gains made by the SVP, a conservative party with roots in the farming community, at the expense of other right-wing parties. In the 2019 federal elections, this trend was reversed in favour of the Green parties: though the SVP remained the strongest party in Parliament with 59 seats, it lost eleven of the seats it won in 2015. There were losses for other major parties, too, including the SP (48 seats -7), FDP.The Liberals (41 seats -5), and the Centre (41 seats -7). The two Green parties (GPS and GLP) gained an additional 30 seats, giving them 49 seats in total.

Political parties

The SVP, Centre, SP, and FDP.The Liberals are all represented in the Swiss government.

www.eda.admin.ch

If this party comes back to power one day (if we look at their strong position in the opposition), their policies may pose a problem for you. And you still continue to humiliate Afghans.

No a matter,he also continue to humiliate our country(TC) in this thread,you can find that

 

[Bogeyman]

No a matter,he also continue to humiliate our country(TC) in this thread,you can find that

This is a multidimensional issue. So I'm not going to go too deep to keep the issue from derailing.