TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

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I wonder if anyone still pays attention to this cute, sweet, upbeat grandma who doesn't know what she's talking about? In fact, she was supposed to be loving her grandchildren and taking Alzheimer's pills right now.
The 2023 elections were to some extent a referendum on whether Osman Kavala, Selahattin Demirtaş and a number of terrorists should be released out of 'respect to the ECHR'. The pro-release side had the advantage of exploiting the dire economic conditions and the myriad of issues that the population was overwhelmed by, notably the refugee issue. On national issues, which the other side instrumentalised, they barely got on the ball.

Under these circumstances, the people sent a message to the political establishment, from the opposition to the government.

While this message is clear, will it benefit to KK, for these dinosaurs to persistently speak in a way that presses the vein? Another issue that the CHP order should sincerely review is that these groups, who have lost the ground of reality and cannot get out of their isolated worlds, should be removed from being the mob that surrenders the understanding of the CHP. When they are removed, really solid CHP people should take their place.
 

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Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu52.5%
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan44.5%

Predictions of @Rooxbar

7,61% off with Kılıçdaroğlu
5 % off with Erdoğan

Seems like it was just wishful thinking. Still good to say predictions, it takes guts to make them.
 
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The 2023 elections were to some extent a referendum on whether Osman Kavala, Selahattin Demirtaş and a number of terrorists should be released out of 'respect to the ECHR'. The pro-release side had the advantage of exploiting the dire economic conditions and the myriad of issues that the population was overwhelmed by, notably the refugee issue. On national issues, which the other side instrumentalised, they barely got on the ball.

Under these circumstances, the people sent a message to the political establishment, from the opposition to the government.

While this message is clear, will it benefit to KK, for these dinosaurs to persistently speak in a way that presses the vein? Another issue that the CHP order should sincerely review is that these groups, who have lost the ground of reality and cannot get out of their isolated worlds, should be removed from being the mob that surrenders the understanding of the CHP. When they are removed, really solid CHP people should take their place.

Are these Kavala and Demirtaş seriously that important to the people ? Why ?
 

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MHP got %10, İYİ got %10, Sinan Oğan got %5 and if we add AKP, BBP, and some Kemalist votes there is a huge %30 nationalist vote block in Turkiye right now. That is the new reality of Turkish politics. Nationalists have never been this strong in Turkish politics. A candidate like Mansur Yavaş could have secured at least %20 of those votes for Nation Alliance which is 2x the votes of HDP. Nation Alliance could have won with a healthy %55+ margin there was no need to rely on HDP votes and no need to give concessions to HDP for support. At that point HDP voters would have faced a choice either vote for Erdoğan, vote for Mansur Yavaş, or not vote at all.

AKP lost %7 compared to 2018. The religious/Islamist voter base is on the decline that is because children of religious parents grow up and become nationalists.
 
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Sinan Oğan 5 demand for supporting either AKP or CHP in the second round

1- the first 4 item of constitution is our Red line ( republicanism ,secularism, and democracy )
2- an obstacle should be put in way of removing the 66th item of constitution ( the definition of Turkism )
3- 13 million illegal alien should be send back to their country
4- Erdogan Stupid economic policy need to be abandoned ( interest cause, inflation result )
5- either block should distance themselves from terrorist organization ( PKK and Hezbollah ) and their political wings ( HDP and Hüda Par )
 

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The 2023 elections were to some extent a referendum on whether Osman Kavala, Selahattin Demirtaş and a number of terrorists should be released out of 'respect to the ECHR'. The pro-release side had the advantage of exploiting the dire economic conditions and the myriad of issues that the population was overwhelmed by, notably the refugee issue. On national issues, which the other side instrumentalised, they barely got on the ball.

Under these circumstances, the people sent a message to the political establishment, from the opposition to the government.

While this message is clear, will it benefit to KK, for these dinosaurs to persistently speak in a way that presses the vein? Another issue that the CHP order should sincerely review is that these groups, who have lost the ground of reality and cannot get out of their isolated worlds, should be removed from being the mob that surrenders the understanding of the CHP. When they are removed, really solid CHP people should take their place.
As a matter of fact, they tried not to be elected by taking the most deputies in both alliances (Cumhur, Millet).

Just when Kk is about to attack, he presses the prayer mat with his shoes, takes photographs and publishes them in full.

they will attack again later, one of the partners comes out, makes a drone, a shooting comment. A partner comes out, talks to the Baykar Technology, etc.

On the other hand, as the pkk barons talk, Kk loses votes, no one tells them to shut up.

On the Mr. Rte side, the pro-media says there is a raise for civil servants and retirees for 2 weeks, it is said to be announced at the union general assembly 2 days ago, but then it is said to wait until July. An AKP deputy is giving an interview to the unofficial PKK agency and having a conversation about Kurdistan.

What does all this mean, don't choose me. Why, because there is a heavy economic crisis picture.
 
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Sinan Oğan 5 demand for supporting either AKP or CHP in the second round

1- the first 4 item of constitution is our Red line ( republicanism ,secularism, and democracy )
2- an obstacle should be put in way of removing the 66th item of constitution ( the definition of Turkism )
3- 13 million illegal alien should be send back to their country
4- Erdogan Stupid economic policy need to be abandoned ( interest cause, inflation result )
5- either block should distance themselves from terrorist organization ( PKK and Hezbollah ) and their political wings ( HDP and Hüda Par )
No mathematician can find a solution to this equation, there is non.
 

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Sinan Oğan 5 demand for supporting either AKP or CHP in the second round

1- the first 4 item of constitution is our Red line ( republicanism ,secularism, and democracy )
2- an obstacle should be put in way of removing the 66th item of constitution ( the definition of Turkism )
3- 13 million illegal alien should be send back to their country
4- Erdogan Stupid economic policy need to be abandoned ( interest cause, inflation result )
5- either block should distance themselves from terrorist organization ( PKK and Hezbollah ) and their political wings ( HDP and Hüda Par )
Love the cut of his jib, but he's overplaying his hand.
 

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Actror Sinan Albayrak, who hurled insults, curses and threats at the earthquake victims,
reacted as : "You are disgusting people" . it;'s very low act


Opposition social media cursing towards earthquake victims is very low act, it's undemocratic manner and not respectful at all. there is no word for this kind of undemocratic insults.....


 

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Best is to wait for YSK, wouldn't trust either party TBH.
Hopefully YSK does something ( like releasing data) and CHP needs to do something if they believe votes are being stolen. More security at the ballots or something rather then shouting votes are being stolen, provide solution to the problem they believe is happening.
 
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