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Unfortunately, the man has won. Nothing will change it in second round, i strongly guess.
The opposition must sit and think about the results carefully. Although there was a wind pushing them from their back, they could not make it.
I hope we don't see any releases of staff in defence industry. That will be obstacle for the projects in ready and future.
 

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Unfortunately most of Turkish voters aren't Atatürkist or nationalists. İt wouldnt work.
Really? Despite Kılıçdaroğlu and his administration, 25% is always guaranteed in the chp. In nationalist votes mhp+iyi parti+zafer partisi 25%-30% is always guaranteed.

They don't need to do anything. If they sit and watch, they will win again.

You need to read the election well, nationalism and Kemalism have an important place in Türkiye.

In 35% there is always the religious vote, not counting the 5% syrian and afghan voters.
 
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They don't need to do anything.
except stop talking about demirtaş and kavala. ali fetöcan's appearance in babala tv in the last minute did the most damage to KK

Edit : KK is alevi the religions people will never vote for him. from 1 year ago we told KK not to run for presidency he cant win and he should nominate mansur yavaş
 

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As the level of education increases, these religious votes will decrease every year, every election period. Akp is trying to consolidate this with nationalist votes, immigrant votes and votes from abroad. But this too will eventually be blocked. You cannot prevent development.

If we don't count the Syrians, Akp actually got 34% of the votes. Things are not going well for them either, I expect big surprises in 5 years, especially if there is an election without kılıçdaroğlu and bahçeli.
 

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votes from abroad.
its not their fault if you follow German news channels you will understand why they vote for Erdogan. these news channels started propaganda that in this election the choice is between PKK and Erdogan or who is Terrorist Abdullah öcalan who is abandon armed conflict 30 years ago and innocently in prison or dictator and terrorist Erdogan who is bombing Syria etc, the voters are actually nationalist. Zafer party should work on the votes from abroad
 
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You need to read the election well, nationalism and Kemalism have an important place in Türkiye.
Yeah Turkish nationalist and Kemalists voted for Erdoğan according to your math.
 

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Guys do not go into politics argue just wait for two weeks.

Everyone should vote kilijdaroglu that people deserve real a dictoratorship, civil war and divided country piece by piece. i ll vote kilijdar again to see the end of these people (y)
Lol,bcs you fail to win in fair election, you want civil war in your own country, this is hilarious 😂
 

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Yeah Turkish nationalist and Kemalists voted for Erdoğan according to your math.
Are you joking, are you kidding, or can't you perceive?

Chp 24%, İyi Parti 10%, Mhp 10%, Zafer Partisi+ince+Ogan 7%

Akp 34%, YRP+Syrians 5%, hdp+tip 11%

Akp was able to get this vote because it partnered with mhp. Normally what are nationalist votes doing in akp?

It is a party that does not utter the word "Turk", abolishes the oath in schools, makes ethnic initiatives, and says that it puts nationalism under its feet.

If Ataturkists and nationalists did nothing, it would still get 51%. With a good partnership and work, 55% would be comfortable. Considering that the 10% who did not vote are dissidents, this would be very comfortable.
 

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Most of old school MHP voted for Millet.
Currently,Those who vote for MHP are have problems with Atatürk and secular government. İ don't think they are really Ülkücü. MHP gained votes from AKP. Former Akp voters went to MHP.
 

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Most of old school MHP voted for Millet.
Currently,Those who vote for MHP are have problems with Atatürk and secular government. İ don't think they are really Ülkücü. MHP gained votes from AKP. Former Akp voters went to MHP.
There is still a slightly more nationalist section in Akp. A section that is not overly religious, these balance each other out.

Akp has a love for neo-Ottomanism. But it will not work in this century. They are learning this by living. The mistakes of the Ottoman Empire, namely the desire to rule through minorities and ummahism, are not possible in this world. The Ottoman Empire could not keep up with the rising nationalism movements in the 1800-1900s. In return, it was shot in the back by the Balkans, Greeks, Armenians and Arabs.

The unifying factor in today's Türkiye s Kemalism and nationalism. Indeed, nationalism has an important place in Kemalism.
 

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There is still a slightly more nationalist section in Akp. A section that is not overly religious, these balance each other out.

Akp has a love for neo-Ottomanism. But it will not work in this century. They are learning this by living. The mistakes of the Ottoman Empire, namely the desire to rule through minorities and ummahism, are not possible in this world. The Ottoman Empire could not keep up with the rising nationalism movements in the 1800-1900s. In return, it was shot in the back by the Balkans, Greeks, Armenians and Arabs.

The unifying factor in today's Türkiye s Kemalism and nationalism. Indeed, nationalism has an important place in Kemalism.

There is no kemalism. It is dead.
 

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Under those economical conditions if so called "nationalists" voted for Cumhur ittifakı, it means they have great love to Reyiz and they are all Reyizçi. No one can't convince me that "nationalists voted for Erdoğan".

People struggling with poverty, still voted for Reyiz. İncredible.. if Atatürk popped up , the MHP's %10 wouldnt go for Atatürk.
 

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Lol,bcs you fail to win in fair election, you want civil war in your own country, this is hilarious 😂

himmm kilijdar wanna divide izmir, istanbul and south east of Turkiye, they guerantee that they will stop defence industry peojects, he wanna remove Turkish name in constitution, he wanna persecute Muslims, he will relase all terrorists from jails, they will give petrol and gas USA for a free, he will retreat from Cyprus, eastern mediterranean and aegean sea. As a result he get 45% !

All this mean people want civil war, dictatorship and division of the country! so let them to get :LOL:
 

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Yeah Turkish nationalist and Kemalists voted for Erdoğan according to your math.
%10 MHP %1 BBP and %6-7 nationalist AKP voters voted for Erdogan. Not everyone in AKP is an İslamist. Those people have no issue with Atatürk. You think that everyone who voted for Erdogan must hate Atatürk which is a big prejudice.
 

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%10 MHP %1 BBP and %6-7 nationalist AKP voters voted for Erdogan. Not everyone in AKP is an İslamist. Those people have no issue with Atatürk. You think that everyone who voted for Erdogan must hate Atatürk which is a big prejudice.
İf you vote for Erdoğan, you happen Reyizçi. That's all.

I don't think people vote for Erdoğan due to economical success.

Which nationalist would support policy of Arab Afghan migrants/ refugees?
 

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himmm kilijdar wanna divide izmir, istanbul and south east of Turkiye, they guerantee that they will stop defence industry peojects, he wanna remove Turkish name in constitution, he wanna persecute Muslims, he will relase all terrorists from jails, they will give petrol and gas USA for a free, he will retreat from Cyprus, eastern mediterranean and aegean sea. As a result he get 45% !

All this mean people want civil war, dictatorship and division of the country! so le to get :LOL:
They are very treat to turkish nation, they are dictators, telling people either us or the hell unfortunately this separatists mindset
 
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