Poland 96 AH-64E Apache Helicopters for the Army

[MaciekRS]

Poland is thinking of buying AH-64E Apache helicopters. How many, time will tell.
But for now USA would provide Poland with eight aircraft from the US Army fleet.
""We have an agreement on eight helicopters. They will arrive in Poland when Polish soldiers - pilots and technicians - have been trained. However, I will say cautiously that we are unlikely to complete the training this year. But we will start training as soon as possible. Apaches are great weapons and indeed give an advantage to the army that owns these helicopters. We care about strengthening the Polish military to deter an aggressor. These are the best attack helicopters in the world,""

Apache coming soon to the equipment of the Polish Armed Forces - Ministry of National Defence - Gov.pl website

"We have received assurances that the US Army will provide us with Apache helicopters. It will give us access to them from its own resources, even before the signing of the contract for the purchase of 96 helicopters for the Polish Armed Forces. This is a very significant capability, so we...

www.gov.pl

Poland to receive eight Apache helicopters from US Army

Following an official visit to Washington, the Polish defence ministry says it has reached an agreement with the Pentagon to receive eight Boeing AH-64E Apache attack helicopters from the US Army, ahead of Warsaw's pending purchase of 96 Apaches.

www.flightglobal.com

 

[MaciekRS]

"WASHINGTON, August 21, 2023 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Poland of AH-64E Apache Helicopters and related equipment for an estimated cost of $12.0 billion.
The Government of Poland has requested to buy ninety-six (96) AH-64E Apache Attack Helicopters; two hundred ten (210) T700-GE 701D engines (192 installed, 18 spares); ninety-seven (97) AN/ASQ-170 Modernized Target Acquisition and Designation Sight/AN/AAR-11 Modernized Pilot Night Vision Sensors (M-TADS/PNVS) (96 installed, 1 spare); thirty-seven (37) AN/APG-78 Fire Control Radars (FCR) Mast Mounted Assembly (MMA) (36 installed, 1 spare); thirty-seven (37) Longbow Fire Control Radar (FCR) Radar Electronic Units (REU), (36 installed, 1 spare); ninety-six (96) AN/APR-48B Modernized Radar Frequency Interferometers (MRFI); one hundred two (102) AN/AAR-57 Common Missile Warning Systems (CMWS) (96 installed, 6 spares); two hundred four (204) AN/ARC-231A, with RT-1987 Receiver Transmitters, Very High Frequency/Ultra High Frequency (VHF/UHF) radios (192 installed, 12 spares); one thousand eight hundred forty-four (1,844) AGM-114R2 Hellfire Missiles; ninety-six (96) M36E8 Hellfire Captive Air Training Missiles (CATM); four hundred sixty (460) AGM-179A Joint Air-to-Ground Missiles (JAGM); five hundred eight (508) Stinger 92K Block I Missiles; and seven thousand six hundred fifty (7,650) WGU-59/B Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System II (APKWS-II) Guidance Sections (GS). Also included are Radar Signal Detecting Sets; Laser Detecting Sets; Identification Friend or Foe (IFF) transponders; Improved Data Modems; Small Tactical Terminals; Improved Countermeasure Dispensing Systems (ICMD); Automatic Direction Finders; Doppler Radar Velocity Sensors; Radar Altimeter Common Cores (RACC); Tactical Air Navigation Set (TACAN); Global Positioning System (GPS) receivers; Simple Key Loader; Advanced Weapon System Automatic Machine Guns; rocket launchers; missile launchers; rockets; ammunition; Manned-Unmanned Teaming (MUMT) Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) Receiver; MUMT Air-Air-Ground kits; training devices; communication systems; helmets; simulators; generators; aircrew survivability equipment; transportation and organization equipment; spare and repair parts; support equipment; tools and test equipment; technical data and publications; personnel training and training equipment; U.S. Government and contractor technical assistance; technical and logistics support services; and other related elements of program and logistical support. The estimated total cost is $12.0 billion."

Poland – AH-64E Apache Helicopters | Defense Security Cooperation Agency

www.dsca.mil

I really dont think we will be able to buy as much as 96 Apache Helicopters, but we are cleared and max price of 12 bln $ is less then many predicted.

 

[Agha Sher]

At this rate, Poland is going to bankrupt themselves.

 

[Sanchez]

Germans will, maybe.

 

[MaciekRS]

"WARSAW, Aug 5 (Reuters) - Poland's defence ministry signed offset deals with Boeing (BA.N), and General Electric (GE.N)
, worth nearly 1 billion zlotys ($255 million) on Monday, bringing it closer to finalising a $12 billion agreement to buy 96 AH-64E Apache helicopters.
Offset deals are designed to compensate the country buying arms from abroad through cooperation between the supplier and domestic companies.
The offset agreement with Boeing worth 400 million zlotys ($102 million) will cover maintenance support for the helicopters and AH-64E maintenance training.
The deal with General Electric worth 530 million zlotys ($135 million) will focus on engine support for the Apaches and for power units in other Polish military helicopters."

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/poland-closer-buying-apache-helicopters-after-offset-deals-with-ge-boeing-2024-08-05/

Deal with Boeing to buy Apaches schould be signed next week.
Even month ago I would laugh at the possibility that we would buy more then 32 maybe 48 Apaches BUT right now it looks like we are all in and really there are plans for all 96.
Well, we'll see next week.

 

[ram]

Very high number...

Congratulations

 

[MaciekRS]

I think its too much and it will be too costly to maitain that number of helicopters, pilots and ifrastructure for it.
But, we'll see. Maybe that number will change.

 

[uçuyorum]

Poland is preparing for real war. Although, in a real war, 96 helicopters is too little even.

 

[MaciekRS]

And its official
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Poland Signs $10 Bn Deal For US Apache Attack Helicopters​

Poland has signed a $10 billion deal to buy 96 Apache attack helicopters from US manufacturer Boeing, the Polish defence minister said on Tuesday announcing the latest upgrade to Warsaw's military capabilities.


"This is the landmark purchase by Poland for its armed forces of ... 96 state-of-the-art AH-64E Apache attack helicopters," Defence Minister Wladyslaw Kosiniak-Kamysz told reporters, adding the deal was "worth $10 billion".

Poland Signs $10 Bn Deal For US Apache Attack Helicopters: Minister

Poland has signed a $10 billion deal to buy 96 Apache attack helicopters from US manufacturer Boeing, the Polish defence minister said on Tuesday announcing the latest upgrade to Warsaw's military capabilities.

www.barrons.com

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1823344955563381225

WOW, thats a LOT of helicopters. The largest Apache operators so far (except USA of course) is UK with 50 and Israel with 48 and we are buying 96.
Deliveries in 2028-2032

 

[Costin1984]

That's an absolute waste of resources. There's alot of other things that 10billion should have been used for,starting with atleast 48 more F35's,attack helicopters are obsolete in today's warfare.

 

[MaciekRS]

Most people think that but both previous goverment (from opposition) and current government and army wants that so what do we know ....
The truth is that in case of aviation we have to count on support from other NATO members, in case of an ground army (and helicopters are going to the army) there are not many countries that would help.