TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Ryder]

Saw the news I always hoped for a miracle that they werent harmed.

 

[Sanchez]

Rest in Peace
To me it's strange that there are two Colonel in that type of aircraft. Or is it normal?

more than likely a shakedown flight after depot level maintenance on the airframe.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

SF-260 crash in Kayseri. Presumably both pilots are dead, from how the aircraft looks.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1797894779008880814

Edit. 2 pilots confirmed dead.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1797895665235714487

Time to retire these good old trainers.

 

[2033]

Time to retire these good old trainers.

Are these planes equivalent to the Hurkus?

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Are these planes equivalent to the Hurkus?

I believe that the plan was to replace them with the Hürkus, however, the initial Hürkus hadn't met the standards of the TSK, hence the decision to commence with the Hürkus II project. The latter is supposed to get the expected orders to be placed.
In fact, I believe orders were already placed iirc.

 

[No Name]

I believe that the plan was to replace them with the Hürkus, however, the initial Hürkus hadn't met the standards of the TSK, hence the decision to commence with the Hürkus II project. The latter is supposed to get the expected orders to be placed.
In fact, I believe orders were already placed iirc.

Do you know why it didn't meet their standards?

The plane is doing well in serving foreign air forces, so it is strange that the Turkish Air Force didn't go for it.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

Do you know why it didn't meet their standards?

The plane is doing well in serving foreign air forces, so it is strange that the Turkish Air Force didn't go for it.

I don't know the specifics and these usually won't be published unless way later, but everything indicates that.
That doesn't mean that it was a bad aircraft but TSK is one of the most demanding customers in the words of the former SSM (now SSB) secretary Murat Bayar.
The original Hürkus was sold to a couple of African countries with limited defence budgets in very small quantities. They must have been a good match to both requirements and budgets of said customers.

 

[uçuyorum]

I don't know the specifics and these usually won't be published unless way later, but everything indicates that.
That doesn't mean that it was a bad aircraft but TSK is one of the most demanding customers in the words of the former SSM (now SSB) secretary Murat Bayar.
The original Hürkus was sold to a couple of African countries with limited defence budgets in very small quantities. They must have been a good match to both requirements and budgets of said customers.

The overall sentiment I see around is that it's a good, high performance plane but not best at being a trainer, maybe a bit difficult to operate for a beginner.

 

[Sanchez]

Are these planes equivalent to the Hurkus?

SF-260 is a basic trainer, while Hürkuş can be considered an advanced trainer and can also be employed on Lead in Fighter Training(LIFT). Hürkuş is closer to an F-16 than SF-260.

 

[what]

I believe we ordered Super Mushaks from Pakistan to replace those SF-260.

Deliveries of Super Mushshak trainer aircraft to Turkish Air Force commence | Shephard

The Turkish Air Force has taken delivery of the first three of 52 Super Mushshak trainer aircraft ordered under a 2017 contract with Pakistan following delays imposed by the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.shephardmedia.com

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Fatman17]

152 Filo "Raider (Akinci)" (TuAF)

 

[Fuzuli NL]

I believe we ordered Super Mushaks from Pakistan to replace those SF-260.

Deliveries of Super Mushshak trainer aircraft to Turkish Air Force commence | Shephard

The Turkish Air Force has taken delivery of the first three of 52 Super Mushshak trainer aircraft ordered under a 2017 contract with Pakistan following delays imposed by the COVID-19 pandemic.

www.shephardmedia.com

I thought the Super Mushaks were meant to replace the ageing Cessna 172s

 

[Rodeo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1798515503000150359

 

[Fuzuli NL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1798515503000150359

That major step being..... ??

 

[uçuyorum]

That major step being..... ??

Well the signing was supposed to be in june

 

[valarmogu]

US Approves Türkiye's Letter of Offer and Acceptance (LOA) for F-16 Block 70 Procurement.

ABD Türkiye'nin F-16 Block 70 Tedariki İçin Mutabakat Mektubunu (LOA) Onayladı! - ULU Savunma

ABD, Türkiye'nin F-16 Block 70 savaş uçağı tedariki ve Modernizasyon kitleri için Mutabakat Mektubunu onayladığını açıkladı...

www.ulusavunma.com

 

[Saithan]

I hope that no bootlicker is going to start celebrating this as anything but another obstacle we got past. Until those block 70 land in Türkiye, I don’t trust the deal to survive.

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Saithan]

I guess the TuAF needs is great enough to warrant the LOA on 23 B USD. I just hope that payment will occur on delivery and such. and we don't end up having more money held ransom.