TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[mTT]

NTV:

The Eurofighter fighter jet purchase has reached its final stage. The final signatures will be made during UK Prime Minister Starmer's visit to Ankara next week.

New generation Eurofighters currently in production for the Royal Air Force will be sent to Turkey.

Under the agreement, Turkey will also acquire Eurofighter fighter jets belonging to the air forces of Qatar and Oman.

The fighter jets to be procured from Oman are planned to be delivered to Turkey after modernization by the manufacturer.

With the signing of the agreements related to the Eurofighter procurement process, the training and adaptation processes for Turkish pilots will begin.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1982357075054235823

 

[Zafer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1982357075054235823

By giving their production slot today they may be looking to secure a Kaan production slot for when the time comes.

 

[Radko]

Notice how outdated the fighter jets involved in the Ukrainian war are: the Su-24, Su-27, MiG-29, and even the Yak-52 trainers and others. Tanks: the T-55, T-62, armored personnel carriers, and infantry fighting vehicles from the 1960s...

Many countries retain even the most obsolete military equipment. The Ukrainians even have a Maxim machine gun from World War I. Anything can come in handy.
Over time, both fighter jets and pilots become obsolete. But they represent a very valuable reserve. In wartime, if 50- or 60-year-old pilots are called up, they will have a hard time retraining on new, more advanced fighters. Therefore, they will have to fly older ones, such as the F-4.

It's better to have 200 obsolete aircraft than 100.
Quantity matters, too.

Yeah, and they work against what exactly? (I am talking about old Ukranian 27s and 29s) They are useless against Russian aircraft. What they do with their 27s and 29s are comparable to what we are doing with F-4s...

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1982357075054235823

So the good news is that acc. to NTV Omani EF will first be modernized and then handed off to TAF.

Guessing they will be upgraded to Tranche 4. Meaning we will have depending on the number of EF taken from Qatar (24+12) + Omani (10-12, see no reason why Oman would keep two of the EF if they are not being able to actually operate them) 48 EF Tranche 3A/4 in the inventory.

 

[mehmed beg]

I am sure that Omani Typhoons are better than any F 16 apart blocks 70, maybe? Also, F 4s can be retired and Typhoons are lot better than those. Omani Typhoons can take loads of F16s. Type as they have longer range, can be parked furtherer away, it complicates thing for adversaries. Also, the planers of the potential adversaries, must take into account the existence of the squadrons which haven't existed before. I just hope that EFs aren't too expensive. The best thing would be , if by end of 2026 THK can field a squadron of those. And let's not forget that due training of THK with Qatari Air force, I think that THK is already somewhat familiar with EFs.

 

[Sanchez]

NTV: New generation Eurofighters currently in production for the Royal Air Force will be sent to Turkey

There are no RAF EFs in production, they didn't place any new orders. Only order that is currently on the BAE line are the 12 Qatari T4s. RAF is yet to order anything. They do not have any orders. Unless Oman or Qatar orders a follow up after we take theirs, only future order BAE is to see is probably the Turkish order.

 

[Sanchez]

And here I am with ANOTHER claim.

"The two countries signed a provisional agreement in July for 40 jets and have since continued negotiations over technical specifications and pricing, which Ankara reportedly found relatively high.

One source familiar with the matter said that of the 40 jets, 20 will be operated by the Royal Air Force (RAF) to allow for faster delivery. The remaining 20 will be delivered later and customised to Turkish specifications.

To speed up delivery, Turkey signed an agreement earlier this month to purchase used Eurofighter jets from Qatar, a Turkish official familiar with the issue told MEE.

Meanwhile, Turkish broadcaster NTV reported that the UK would prioritise Ankara's order by delivering aircraft currently being built for the RAF."

UK's Starmer visit to Turkey set to finalise multibillion-dollar Eurofighter deal

British PM to visit Ankara on Monday, reportedly sending two Eurofighter jets to mark the deal

www.middleeasteye.net

MEE claims RAF will deliver 20 used EFs to TurAF. It also mentions other claims of Qatari aircraft.

So now we have 5 conflicting claims:

Reuters said 12 used + 28 new,
Bloomberg said 24 used + 12 new
Özbek said 24 Qatari EFs + 12 slots + new orders
NTV said slots for RAF being transferred to TurAF
and now MEE says 20 ex RAF jets + 20 new orders

Maybe NTV claim actually is that TurAF is to get the RAF jets to be modernized into service? Because two things are certain. There are no active RAF orders, and there's no way for RAF jets that will be modernized being inducted into service in 2026. For the RAF jets(T2-T3) to be procured and to have a "quick inventory" of the birds, we need the Qatari ones.
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Or maybe, just maybe, NTV claim is actually for the Omani Royal Air Force jets, and they fucked up when translating from the source.

 

[Turkic]

UK's Starmer visit to Turkey set to finalise multibillion-dollar Eurofighter deal

British PM to visit Ankara on Monday, reportedly sending two Eurofighter jets to mark the deal

www.middleeasteye.net

"British PM to visit Ankara on Monday, reportedly sending two Eurofighter jets to mark the deal"

And my post is verified according to MEE

We will probably get 24/40 T4 and 2 T1 from the UK